Eld Vs Paper

But it’s also probably fair to say that there were more than a few who simply could not comprehend and produce trip planning at the levels necessary to remain both compliant AND earn sufficient income. There’s no accounting for those who can’t comprehend that “time never stops” no matter what else may or may not come into play.

 

Actually, it’s those that use ELD that make it hard for paper users to manage their time.

Getting trapped between 2 clowns taking their 30 break on the fuel islands screws your day up regardless of the method you choose.

 

There was a time when O/O spent their day screaming at you on the radio to gtf out of the way.

Now they just cry because we waste our companies money on fuel.

 

Has nothing to do with elogs. It's been happening for as long as I've been in trucking (sure, only 8 years,but still....)

 

Which one is 100% reliable?
Which one is less expensive?

Then there's the whole straight-forwardness of the paper log. No clicking through various menus to make sure all of the info gets entered. No wondering if the trailer you entered last week and haven't dropped yet is still showing up on your log. No having to figure out how to remove a load that you were supposed to deliver 3 days from now, but dispatch just decided to pull you off it & repower to free you up for a different run.

If you knew how to keep a log book, you could go anywhere and work without having to re-learn how to log. Now, there's so many options, and every company (especially if they're large enough) will have their own versions of the 'commonly used' ones...meaning now you've got to get trained in how to log using THEIR specific system.

Not to mention the whole "tied to the truck" part. Hard to accurately keep a log when you can't have it with you where are, and it can be more hassle than it's worth having to go back and edit in time blocks for any time worked away from the truck.

Yup. There are tons of flaws with the ELD, and at the end of the day it is no more accurate in logging TRUE compliance with the HOS than paper logs. In my case, they are actually LESS accurate, because I'm less inclined to go out of my way to ensure they are accurate. If it takes longer to make an entry for a change of duty status into the ELD than it would take me on paper, I skip making the entry. If they want it to autimatically track my HOS, then it will only log what it can automatically log.

 

All good points. But not entirely true.

My logs and load data go with me wherever I need them to. I just snatch the tablet out of the truck. It’s that simple.

Modifications to current load? Not an issue. I can directly effect minor issues. Bigger ones are handled quickly with a phone call.

BUT, when it goes down. There’s hell to pay when it comes back up. Depending on how long it was down. It could take a couple of hours to clear the outstanding load data.

The bonus is, I don’t have to call or ask anyone how to fill out a paper log.

 

Rest dude rest
I run on paper too but I'm not killing myself

 

Imho sometimes eld can ruin your work pretty easy ...let's say I show up at the metall facility at 11am waiting ...oh we go for lunch 1-2 get done by 3-4 ...and tomorrow is Friday and I can't make with my delivery with eld in time or be able to load next load ...gonna waste 2.5 days god knows where out of family
If you are on dedicated route - different story

 

That's when you go to sleeper berth for 8 hrs if you haven't used much drive time to get there. After 3 or 4, there's a nap right there.

 

If they took 8 to load me I’d usually just wait a couple more and get my hole 10 in right there. Then you’ve got all your time back. Then comes the problem if you didn’t sleep a wink in that time though.