Will self-driving trucks be an issue for truckers

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by Steven42000, Dec 26, 2018.

  1. Flat Earth Trucker

    Flat Earth Trucker Road Train Member

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    I guess nobody wants to build a 2,000 mile plus tube.
    Rockets won't work because rockets cannot land upright. Those FakeX rockets? That's cgi, boys and girls.
    And drones aren't quite capable of carrying a substantial payload.
     
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  3. Farmerbob1

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    I do not believe autonomous ground vehicles are a good idea. I believe we agree on that point.

    I also do not believe their development is any part of a grand conspiracy against freedom.

    Autonomous vehicle research is simply an outgrowth of Capitalism. Lawsuits that will financially kill or cripple companies who eventually try putting autonomous trucks on the road outside of very strictly controlled environments are also Capitalism at work.
     
  4. Farmerbob1

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    Elon Musk is working on pneumatic tube underground propulsion systems, I believe.
     
  5. homeskillet

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    Yes. Trucking's demise is imminent.

    Dig a hole.
    Dig it NOW.
    Dig it DEEP.
    Hide inside.......
     
  6. pmdriver

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    Check out airplanes, the crew is for just checking gauges, take off and landing, could be the future of driving, do pretrip, insert destination, drive to big road, press auto drive button, sit back and enjoy the ride(there will be some oops), and then be rested for the destination. That could change Hours rules greatly.
     
  7. pmdriver

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    And cars will be flying in air then so no problem with them.
     
    Farmerbob1 Thanks this.
  8. Farmerbob1

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    The R&D departments of every major industry have been blowing smoke up our ashes in every industry ever since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.

    I have said it before, I will say it again. Trains run on rails. When railroad companies stop putting engineers in MOST trains, I will believe that significant numbers of automated trucks might start driving on public roads in 50 years or so.

    Look at the crazy stuff that engineers were promising we would be able to do with nuclear power in the 1950s and 1960s. Most of it was technically feasible. Most of it never happened because it was insanely unsafe.

    80k pounds of truck at 65 miles an hour without a human behind the wheel is enormously unsafe.
     
  9. Farmerbob1

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    Everyone flying an aircraft in the air with you is either a licensed pilot, training to be one, or dealing with a emergency.

    See how long you remain a pilot if you violate air traffic control rules.

    On the ground we have hundreds of thousands of people with barely the slightest idea of what they are doing. Every single day I see at least several idiots checking to see if they won the Darwin Award lottery.

    If the vast majority of people on the road controlling vehicles were professional, competent, and followed driving laws, automated trucks might be sane.

    Let me know how long you think it will be before we get most of the incompetents, idiots, drunks, and ignorant people off the road. Then I might think automated trucks are only a couple decades away.
     
  10. WildTiger1990

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    Well first, you can barely get any money back from R&D to make train autonomous.

    2nd , autonomous cars need decent internet, to be able to connect with their servers, that in case of any problem human could took over, now look where train runs most of a time , through middle of nowhere, where "internet and satilite is unreliable", and if something goes wrong, you can't just simply send someone to fix it, as mechanics on regular road can fix at no time.
     
  11. Farmerbob1

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    You are correct. Part of the reason we do not have automated trains is because remote operation is unreliable.

    So, we want a live operator to step in if there is a problem with automated operation.

    We will always want a live operator to step in if there is a problem with automated operation. Because any other option is stupid without so many layers of engineered safety that it makes automation impossible to afford.
     
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