Pros and Cons to 1 min and 15 min log intervals?

You are still on an AOBRD, when it gets switched over to ELD it will log it correctly.

 

ELDs are suppose to automatically switch from Driving to On Duty after 5 mins of the vehicle going less than 5mph.

 

How about the real issue - why do we log minutes and hours when we are paid by the mile? A driver should have so many MILES to drive in a day. Not hours.

Also that ELD is a time clock. Anyone who punches a time clock is an employee. So nobody should get a 1099. All O/Os are employees who should be getting benefits. IMO.

And why aren’t we now paid for every second on duty? That ELD knows the second you go on detention time yet how much free time to do we give our employers and various shippers/receivers? No other job in the world screws over its employees like trucking does!

And a driver should be our by the hour for all hours away from home and when under 20mph like sitting in traffic.

ALL THIS SHOULD BE THE LAW.

 

And how many miles do you think should be allowed in a day? Whatever it is then employers would demand driver put in that many miles. So what if there is no time to sleep, eat, or shower, you need to get your miles. Driving in the northeast vs driving the western states is a huge difference in how long it takes to cover, for instance, 700 miles. Multi-stop loads could have a driver running 24/7 and never reach his 'allowed miles" but hey, no problem because that would be the only logging rule. Sorry, not going to work, and just asking for even more abuse of drivers.

The definition of an employee has nothing to do with a time clock, it is irrelevant. Want us to all be employees, then watch how fast we become salaried and get a fixed amount per week. The 1099 issue IS something companies, usually small carriers, abuse tremendously. If you don't own or lease the truck and nothing invested in the operation there is no way you should receive a 1099. Just like accepting cheap freight, plenty of drivers think that a 1099 job is a good deal, and it is, for whoever is paying you.

How exactly does an ELD "know" when you are on detention? They can be used to show arrival and departure but that is all, and if you are early or late, or a problem you cause results in being there extra time, how does the ELD "know" you are on detention.

Your intentions are good, but the causes and solutions are a bit flawed.

One of the best models I've seen (and been paid by) is miles, plus all time spent loading/unloading (within the designated times), plus the number of pieces delivered and the weight. There is not going to be one perfect way to pay everyone, just like HOS problems, one size does not fit all.

There are plenty of people in this industry making good money, compensated well for what they do. The majority of companies only want to fill seats with bodies and are screaming 'driver shortage' to the media at every opportunity. The abuses they inflict on drivers are much of the problem, and they instill the mentality of needing to run a ridiculous number of miles just to scrape by.

When asking for laws to "fix" these issues, be careful what you ask for, you just may get it.

 

Simple answer to that problem. Get a job that pays hourly.

 

If the device is grandfathered and still in AOBRD mode until December, then the Admin can set the interval as long as the device maker supports that setting. For instance, on Omnitracs / Qualcomm you can set it from 1 minute to 5 minute increments when a duty status changes if you are in AOBRD mode. In December when everyone has to be in ELD mode then every device is required by the mandate to record duty status changes down to the exact time that they happened, with the exception of going from "DRIVE-to-ON DUTY." As mentioned by @YeaImRJ the device will start 5-minute countdown when the vehicle stops. That is to account for traffic lights and such and it will remain in "DRIVE" unless the driver manually changes it, or the device times out. If the vehicle still has not moved for 5 minutes, the device will warn/ask the driver if they want to go to line 4. If the driver still does not go to line 4 then the device will put them in line 4 by itself.

So, in relation to the original post, there are 2 timing lessons to ponder for yourself if you are in AOBRD mode, and one if you are in ELD mode.
(1) If you are in AOBRD mode, you will have to decide if doing status changes in 1 minute increments will help you more than say 5-minutes.
And (2) in both AOBRD mode and ELD mode, I personally have ran many tests with drivers over the last year about manually going to line 4 right away when the truck stops moving. For instance, when you pull up to the fuel pump or a shipper, go into line 4 immediately instead of letting the machine do it 6 minutes later. That may seem self-evident, but I know that there are many drivers who don't use (or don't care) about this method. By shaving those 5 or 6 minutes dozens or hundreds of times over the course of a month, you can add hours back to your actual driving (making money) clock.

 

On my Qualcomm, still in AOBRD mode, when I stop and it switches to on duty after I have stopped, the time it records is the last vehicle movement five minutes prior. When I was running J.J. Keller logs they did the same thing.

 

Good catch. They may have done that change in a software update since I tested. It is a good thing to test for folks who are curious on their brand of device. After the timeout period, check if it goes back and records that time as line 3 or line 4 on their brand.