Hauling Laws for hauling personal equipment?

Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by Duramax Phil, Apr 13, 2019.

  1. Duramax Phil

    Duramax Phil Bobtail Member

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    I'm pulling my hair out right now trying to find laws regarding personal hauling. Specifically I'm trying to find in the law about calculating towing compacity and also weight limits before you have to get DOT numbers on a vehicle or a CDL.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Define personal.
    No seriously, what are you trying to accomplish?
     
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  4. Duramax Phil

    Duramax Phil Bobtail Member

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    So I have a 2500 Duramax and it has a rated GVWR of 9700lbs my GVR 7,400lbs which puts my payload at 2,300lbs. My GCWR is 22,000lbs. I wanted to rent a trailor that was nearly 2,000lbs and use it to move a 9,000lb forklift I just bought. It was going to use my 4in receiver. The total towing compacity on my truck is 13,000lbs via standard ball pull. The guy told me that if I was going to pull that load it was going to put my GVWR over by 11,000lbs and I would have to atleast have a 4500 and at that i would have to have a CDL and DOT numbers on my truck. And this was a reputable HD trailer rental place. Not u-haul.

    I just dont know if I'm being an idiot and calculating my numbers all wrong or if the other guy is confused. Everything I have seen shows that I can safely tow this load. I was wondering if there were any actual federal laws that confirmed any of what this guy was telling me.
     
  5. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    No, I think he's wrong. In reality you are simply pulling an 11K lb camper (well no different). Any 3/4 ton should handle that, and any diesel 3/4 ton will handle it easy.

    As for DOT, well did you purchase this for your business? If you make money off the forklift, then it's part of your business. Moving your own companies equipment is the same as any random CMV requirements. If this is 100% personal then no DOT numbers required as you are not commercial.

    As for CDL, unless you are both in California and it's commercial you will not need a CDL. The requirement is 26,001 lbs or more before a CDL is required. Even if you are commercial all the other states you still will not need a CDL.
     
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    No, it's not for a business. Just have some heavy stuff in my workshop that requires some heavy lifting often and found a forklift for cheap. Thanks for the information. You've been a great help!
     
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  7. ETMF 58 White

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    You might find someone on UShip to haul it cheaper than you can fool with renting a trailer and buying your gas and time. Just be sure about insurance. Your truck will handle it with a gooseneck trailer easily and maybe even some bumper pull trailers.
     
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    make sure whatever trailer you rent can support a 9,000 lb forklift, that is a lot of weight concentrated in a small footprint. I would call a local tow company and see if they can move it, a lot less hassle that way.
     
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  9. Duramax Phil

    Duramax Phil Bobtail Member

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    The trailer was rated for it. They just said my Duramax 2500 wasn't. I have a buddy that owns a flatbed tow truck. I'll see if he can move it and just purchase my own trailor later on down the road.
     
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    I've had really good luck using my 2500 HD and a PJ gooseneck hydraulic dovetail with 2-10,000 lb axles to move smaller equipment, such as skid loaders, brooms, and even small vibratory rollers. Cheaper than sending the lowboy truck out, and I can use just about any of my mature guys to drive because no CDL is required. I don't have my DOT number on the truck, although the company name is on the side. I've never really thought about if it was required.
     
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  11. ZVar

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    In your case it is required. Either DOT or your state's equivalent. This is a commercial move, unlike the op so all CMV laws apply to the truck.
     
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