Some numbers for new O/O

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by DUNE-T, Aug 23, 2018.

  1. Ruthless

    Ruthless Road Train Member

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    To my understanding, new ag equipment and the construction equipment already has the same emission standards as trucks. And I was led to believe they have something similar to elogs is coming to construction equipment as well. I’m not sure what the timeline in that field is though.

    According to my parts guy at KW, parts for anything older than 10 years is going to go way up in the near future, which I can say for a fact that prices have jumped noteably already in the past couple years, much more than inflation.
     
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  3. Trucker186

    Trucker186 Medium Load Member

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    Ag equipment is but ask any farmer if hes runnin all new equipment most arent cant afford it people act like a old engine is gonna fall apart well if you never do preventive maintenance then it will but if you treat them right and dont run em till they break then you wont have a money pit its simple unless you have a volvo motor then well its your fault for buy a pos lol
     
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    Lets say this old trucks make good money and there probable payed for i know a company owner all pre 07 rigs and all cats hauling milk and making good cash starting with a new rig is a bad idea cause you get sick or hurt well finance company doesnt care they come take it and put you outta business
     
  5. DUNE-T

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    Prices jumped since the glider building business really took off, plus now you have everyone rebuilding pre 2000 engines to avoid elogs
     
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  6. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    I'm wondering how many of these you actually have owned?
    If you don't have the ability to cover a few months of truck payments if you're sick, you should figure out where you can improve the business. Every owner experiences bad times sooner or later. If you survive depends on how you run that business.

    Treating it good is what any owner or company driver should be doing but some guys are morons plain and simple.
    When your truck has more downtime the cost from work loss adds up very fast.. And you lose customers.

    If you're a hobby trucker and don't run hard maybe you can wrench all the time yourself and be fine but you're statistically not going to make more money.

    Fleets know this and the #s say over 500k it's time to replace. Cost of ownership past that point greatly exceeds cost of new truck ownership.
    Uptime makes more money, consistently.


    DuneT,

    yeah.. should we even touch all the exploded Fitzgerald "in house S60" gliders from people that bought pre emissions to have reliability? Lol

    I'll take a Mack D13/MP8 any day of the week over that total POS.
     
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  7. Green461

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    A lot of fear mongering. Fear of emission mandates. People are realizing that the emission control stuff is just a scam, likely wont last, hopefully california breaks off into the ocean.. Fear of breaking so they think they need a warranty, warranties are the biggest money grab scam in the world pushed because of fear. If it really cost that much a year it would cheaper to buy a couple used trucks, keep one as a spare, and instead of a warranty take that money and rebuild them both and still have money to spare. The money people just throw away because of fear mongering is insane.
     
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  8. JoeyJunk

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    Hobby farmers don’t have new equipment. Majority of real farmers do.
     
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  9. KB3MMX

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    If you can't afford $7k spread across 3-5 years.... you might be a hobby trucker.

    Sure beats any major repair expenses out of pocket for 500,000 miles of revenue production.

    Is this a new take on Jeff Foxworthy's blue collar comedy tour??
    Hehe :angel4::laughing5::laughing6::laughing7::laughing8::laughing9:
     
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  10. spyder7723

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    You can inframe a series 60 or n14 for under 2500. 1500 more gets you a detroit remanned head. A rebuilt 13 speed goes for about 3500 exchanged and rebuilding both rears is under 3k. Those major expenses everyone talks about aren't all that major.
     
  11. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    Not with OEM , that's Chinese parts and 100% your labor.

    They are inexpensive though compared to CAT for sure !!

    A genuine OEM parts in frame, done by a shop is generally only 12-15k depending on options.

    ISX is about the same #s


    Both rears done by a shop are usually 8k +/-
    The reman parts are about 2800 on center sections each... (X2)

    and 350 for OEM bearings & seals(each)
     
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