Machinery tarp cost

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by pavrom, Jul 10, 2019.

  1. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    A world of F-ups here.

    One;
    the broker was trying to take short cuts. Maybe didn’t know what they bid on, offered to low a rate and no pad/tarp fees.

    Two;
    Shipper should have made clear that the load needed to be covered.

    Three;
    You the driver. You should have been knowledgeable enough to know that machinery needs to be covered.

    The broker needs to step up and pay agreed rates, and take the claims hit, if any. Be sure and copy all documents related to load. Always get it in writing.

    You did the work based on the documents and agreements. And you should be paid. However you should have also known better. It was machinery. If your not well versed in these types of loads, sounds like you might not be, then best you not take them until you get better educated on what it takes to move them.
     
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  3. JonJon78

    JonJon78 Road Train Member

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    Hopefully the Customer learned a valuable lesson with this. You get what you pay for. You hire these low ball flip floppers out of the Chicago area, this is the results you get.
     
  4. pavrom

    pavrom Road Train Member

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    I think the only lesson customer should learn - never deal with that broker .
    As a driver i am knowledgeable to see what has to be tarped and whats not . I called my dispatch and he called the broker to confirm about tarp , if that load had to be tarped i i would cancel it for the price offered . Why would i care about customer if this is not my customer and will never be mine ( broker is carrier as well in 3rd generation according to their website ) , i try to protect myself in this situation . We emailed the broker right away and offered a. Tarp it at $350 b. Deliver it back counting all miles According rate confirmation c. Deliver it the way it is .
    I refused to tarp the load for 100-150-200 several times broker offered . He threatened to file a claim because he offered money to tarp and we didn't and called my agent , she confirmed that in this situation it will be most likely declined . Finally broker sent new confirmation and you know the rest .
    I dont get your problem being on the negative note all the time : flip flopper , european , out of your league , not paying taxes , booking cheap loads ( might be forgetting something , dont hesitate to add more hate or dislikes ) . Lets hear your business model and rates you run or pm me some educational lessons on improvement instead of crying all the time that someone drowning the market , wearing flip flop .
    I got the point about making mistake and not purchasing permit - how this affects you ?
    Maybe you are one of those 350lbs guys wearing safety steel toes even while sleeping and filling your 2 gal jug with coke or coffee twice and not taking shower whole week but you paid your taxes and purchased your permits . I dont think you have enough facts to judge me sitting behind the monitor .
     
  5. JonJon78

    JonJon78 Road Train Member

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    The facts I get are from the stuff you post.

    From the load that you posted that shifted and needed tow truck, from the picture you posted of a truck pulling your step deck that had a DOT number that was listed out of service on the FMCSA website which soon as I mentioned it you immediately deleted the picture, from the laser machine posting, this fiasco with untarped machines, your oversized load that you didn't get the proper permits for intentionally because you thought the scale would be closed.

    I just call it when YOU post it. You dime yourself out.
     
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  6. JonJon78

    JonJon78 Road Train Member

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    It affects everyone that hauls open deck freight. This has been explained to you by numerous people on here. I cant explain it any better than it already has been.


    Edit:

    Just to further add YOU, YOURSELF said that YOU are one of the Chicago area Europeans that's taking all the freight...
     
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  7. pavrom

    pavrom Road Train Member

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    Shifted load - that was my driver
    Truck without my dot number - the truck i purchased and was bringing home , i knew about it and was ready to face the consequences
    Untarped machine - where is my fiasco here , i did everything on my side according to confirmation
    No permit on oversize load - totally agree
     
  8. REO6205

    REO6205 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    @pavrom ...People here are trying to help you. You'd do well to listen to what they say. You're getting the collective wisdom from many years of experience and it's all right there for you to learn from and apply.
    Or not, your choice entirely.
    The only enemy you have here is yourself.
     
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  9. old iron

    old iron Road Train Member

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    So you showed up at the delivery point with a tarped machine.
    Why would they investigate any further if the machine was in a clean dry condition.
    Tells me it wasn't...
     
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  10. kylefitzy

    kylefitzy Road Train Member

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    Unless the broker truly is running a scam. Tells the customer to sign the bills as wet, docks the carrier 500 bucks and the broker and customer split the 500.
     
  11. MartinFromBC

    MartinFromBC Road Train Member

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    Simply do what the contract says.
    If it says tarped, tarp it.
    If it doesn't, don't.
    Changing the contract, voids the contract.
    Once long ago I allowed myself to get talked into changing the contract, without writing on it void, and preparing a new contract, and getting it signed.
    Came back to bite me is the a..

    Never again.
    If its not in the contract, it simply isn't.
    Altering it because you feel like doing so is a good way to get sued later.
     
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