I swear I’m not picking on you, but the manual says if you lubricate it with motor oil, it needs to be torqued between 350-400 (pg. 29).
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The torque spec above applies to stud piloted lug nuts.
So, I have been working on my truck myself
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Motor oil works great. But not long term. It's gone in time. But I will tell you 350 is to low. Just personal experience. I have run road service and fleet maintenance now along with my own equipment. 450 is the ideal torque up to 500. Tight enough to not worry and easy enough to get a part. Ten lugs at 450lbs calculates to a bunch of clamping force. More damage is done from over tightening than to loose.PE_T Thanks this. -
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The torque spec above applies to stud piloted lug nuts.Last edited: Dec 3, 2019
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I have seen where recommended torque values are different from a dry Bolt versus a lubricated bolt.
I'm not sure how that translates into application, but the recommended specifications are different.PE_T Thanks this. -
HF 1" impact—$200
1/2", 50" air hose, also available at HF—$40
Two male and two female G-style quick connect available from most truck parts supply houses... $?
1" drive 33mm socket and 12" extension (extension is for the torque wrench)...
(Nice to have) 20 ton air actuated bottle jack.
I installed a half inch air line in one of my dry tanks and ran it to the back of the frame on the truck then installed a G style female connector on a bulkhead. I can plug the 50" air hose in there and hit every wheel on truck and trailer. Oil the impact gun EVERY time you use it and it will last as long as any other brand.
I got a Norbar torque wrench, like you see the tire shops use, for about $400-500... something like that. Ordered it from Covington Heavy Duty Truck Parts in Dothan, AL.
I don't have to wait on a service truck for anything tire or wheel related now.HopeOverMope, PE_T, SL3406 and 2 others Thank this. -
Oh, and as for the anti-seize argument... that stuff is for preventing galvanic corrosion when threading a steel bolt into aluminum and for preventing galling on stainless fasteners. It is not thread lube.
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PE_T Thanks this.
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HUB PILOTED lug nuts(page 34), of which there are several sizes, the chart indicates 450-500 for the size common discussed here. You will notice on the same chart there is NO torque value given for dry threads, which leads me to believe Alcoa wants you to properly lubricate in the indicated areas with motor oil.Tug Toy, PE_T and jamespmack Thank this. -
https://www.permatex.com/products/l...s-anti-seize/permatex-anti-seize-lubricant-2/
I cannot count the number of shop manuals for products ranging from lawn mowers to cars to earth moving equipment that recommend the use of anti seize. And it is a thread lube.jamespmack Thanks this. -
Should I tell them they should be using copper never seize with aluminum wheels and silver for steel? Or will that be to much confusion?
You can order still order budd hubs. Heck Daytons was standard on school bus order for till about 1999.
Tires on ball seat/budd wear better too.
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