Engine problems wit Ford f450

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  1. Brandonpdx

    Brandonpdx Road Train Member

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    Those 6.4's are not a very reliable platform. 6.7 has been proven to be a pretty reliable engine. Not CP3 Cummins motor reliable but the general consensus was that the 6.4 was the one to stay away from in the Fords.
     
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  3. Ubu

    Ubu Road Train Member

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    The OP said he has a 2017 truck. That would have come with the 6.7 which is a solid engine.
    Ford discontinued the 6.4 engines in 2010.

    Both the 6.0 and 6.4's were very problematic and both were actually not made by Ford. They are part of the Navistar VT engine line, same as the wonderful Maxxforce 7 that International had so many issues with (Navistar VT engine - Wikipedia).
     
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  4. Brandonpdx

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    Ok must have been confusing this one with some other guy. 6.7 motor once they worked some minor bugs out of it is a solid motor except for the high pressure fuel pump. The Bosch CP4 series high pressure pumps are pieces of crap compared to the older heavier duty CP3s used in '01-10 Duramaxes and '03-18 Cummins. When the CP4 pumps go out they basically grenade the whole fuel system and it is catastrophically expensive to fix. Arguably the best modern motor out of any of the little trucks is the 5.9 Cummins in the '03-07.5 Rams. Still pre-emission but with a quiet common-rail injection system using the better CP3 pump. Prior to that you are into the old clattery 12V/24V Cummins and 7.3 Powerstrokes. Okay motors but noisy and not very refined or powerful by today's standards.

     
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    The only good thing about the Ford 6.4's is you can buy 2008-2010 trucks with blown up 6.4's in them dirt cheap then do a cummins swap..
     
  6. Brandonpdx

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    They can be okay if you just want a toy to delete/tune and race around town in. I would not try to make a living with one. Even 6.7 would scare me if I were on the hook for the repair bills. They might make a CP3 conversion but better idea yet would be to stick with the 03-18 Cummins as a work motor.
     
  7. AModelCat

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    I wouldn't buy a Cummins just because they sound like a wet fart when you step on it.
     
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  8. crocky

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    Well problem is Dodge truck is just no good IMO.. The Ford Trucks are much nicer and the tuck it's self is better built but of course the Cummins is the better motor while Ford has the better transmission. Maybe newer Dodge transmissions are ok but even there, Ford 1 upped them with the 10 speed in the new trucks. Regardless, just having a good motor is not enough when you also have to deal with the other stuff.
     
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    I'm wondering if you guys read something else than I did, he never mentioned the engine.

    The guy down the road has the same year f450 with a v10 and he had the engine seize while towing his horses with just 38,000 miles on it. Ford gave him crap about it but finally replaced the engine.
     
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    You're right. Type of engine
    You're right. Type of engine other than long- and short-block wasn't mentioned.

    5 engines or 4 replacements, or whatever, doesn't sound random.
     
  11. Brandonpdx

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    If it was an F-450 pickup, which I am assuming it was, then it had to be a 6.7 powerstroke because they don't offer any other engine choice at that trim level. If you wanted a gasser motor you had to step down to the F-350 DRW, which not too many of those are gassers either. Interestingly though you can get the gas motors in the 450 and 550 cab and chassis versions for commercial use. It is just the 450 pickup where they force option the diesel.

    If I were buying a new Ford truck I wouldn't even pay the extra for the diesel unless it was going to be a serious long hauler running heavy. That new 7.3 pushrod gas motor with the 10 speed trans would be more that most people would need already.
     
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