Going back to OTR with Schneider Lease Purchase!

Discussion in 'Schneider' started by plynnjr92, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. Newbeav Newbie

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    Usually
     
  2. DAX_

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    What is a situation in which they won't
     
  3. Opus

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    They cover ALL lumpers.
     
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    SWA pilots have been the best-paid Part 121 pilots in the USA for the last 20 years or better. SWA is the only major US airline never to have declared bankruptcy and back when the other majors took major pay cuts and gave up much of their pensions during bankruptcy, some SWA senior captains were making low $400's early on in the recession. When SWA bought AirTran, it was said the Tranny pilots hit the lotto.

    Look up Herb Kelleher sometime. He's a ####ing legend and the reason SWA employees and pilots love their jobs. Countless business class lectures in college have been about how Herb ran SWA.
     
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  5. plynnjr92

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    Flying for Southwest was a dream of mine as a kid because of their culture. Instead I fly as a passenger with them as often as I can.

    I think honestly though if I could get into the field I'd fly an Airbus A320 over a Boeing 737. Not because of the 737 MAX issues, but there's an airline that gets pilots home everyday. I've looked at a JetBlue program that takes you from NOTHING to a JetBlue first officer in 3.5 years for a whopping $110k. Expensive yes, but making good money, and most of the large airlines pay for crew hotels.

    If I were to gain experience flying the A320 with JetBlue I'd then set my sights on Allegiant. Reason being is I spoke at length with a captain who flew me into Phoenix-Mesa. He said their compensation is fair, working conditions have improved after they dumped their old MD-80s for the all-Airbus fleet, and their limited flight schedules allows crews to return home after every shift. Since Allegiant has a base at the Phoenix-Mesa airport, a half hour from my home in AZ, I could theoretically fly a Phoenix to LAX, LAX to Phoenix, Phoenix to Ogden, and Ogden back to Phoenix and be home to have dinner with my wife. I'd be a regional pilot with a major airline, with the best hometime policy in the industry.

    The only thing holding me back from training is the cost, and the fact that I have bills. Had I started flight training when I was living at home with fewer responsibilities, I'd probably be flying planes now instead of driving trucks. The main reason I didn't choose to fly at the time was when I learned the first officer involved in the Colgan Air crash over Buffalo only earned $16k a year to fly a regional turboprop plane, and couldn't even afford her own lodging, as Colgan Air being a regional airline didn't pay for that. Even the captain on that flight only earned $60k a year. Disappointing to say the least.

    But hindsight is 20/20. My wife is supportive of the idea but I don't think it's a feasible one. To completely reset my career path in our situation, where I'd only earn $35-$40k a year as a flight instructor for at least 18 months to accumulate the minimum flight hours, and then earn slightly more as a regional F/O for a couple more years, waiting for my big break to one of the majors.. it's not something my checkbook would be able to tolerate. :(
     
  6. plynnjr92

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    Load for Sunday morning cancelled #### me. $3880 goes to $3139 just like that. I can't even be sad or angry anymore.

    EDIT**
    Successfully inserted a new shipment in it's place. It's heavy unlike the cancelled load but it pays more. Settlement looks like $3987 for now unless something else cancels
     
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  7. Av8torcrj

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    The airline industry is humming. Retirements are creating demand. I started in ‘97 as a Saab 340 f/o, probably $20 something an hour, ended after 15 years CRJ C/A about $100 an hour. It’s a profession where you have to pay your dues and move up the ranks. The guys I knew when leaving are mostly flying for Delta now and the company can’t throw money at them fast enough. It’s not as glamorous as it seems but it’s good money. And, BTW, the airlines pay ALL hotels.

    Love SW.... none of the extra charge BS as with other carriers. Easy cancel/change credit. They are my go to ride.
     
  8. spyder7723

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    What is a ballpark entry level salary?
     
  9. Av8torcrj

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    I haven’t kept up with it lately. I know regionals where folks generally start have increased initial salaries, likely 30’s-40’s, maybe more. A brief internet search would likely offer better info. I’ve seen signs somewhere around the country where I think United is offering training.
    It’s gotta be something you WANT and LOVE to do. Chasing $$$ is just a dead end life. Just like in trucking if every other sentence out of your mouth is about getting home, airline ain’t the job, at least not initially.
     
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    When I was in college that was ove of the careers I was considering. Figured I loved flying the bonanza so might be able to tolerate it. But everyone I talked to said to expect sn income in the high 20s to low 30s and I was making more than that running a truck part time. This would of been 97, maybe 98.
     
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