Eld help

I'm fairly new to the transport business. I currently haul with my own truck. It's a duramax 2500hd. The company I drive for is primarily car haulers. I have only been there about three weeks. I want to haul ONLY campers. Being that they haul cars, trucks and campers. Can I be exempt from the e log?

 

Doubtful you will meet any exemptions. You would need a 1999 or older vehicle. You don't meet the drive away exemption since you always drive the same truck. It's doubtful you wull meet the 100/160 air mile radius exemption.

Good news though, is depending on the GVWR to the truck, you likely will only need to log when you are hauling a camper. When moving empty you may be under the 10,000 lbs required to trigger the logging requirement.

 

I have a question about the eld ag exemption. My understanding is that you can travel from the source of the ag commodity within 150 miles without using any logging device, is this true? Then after you reach the 150 miles, ypu have to start logging your hours. I'm hauling peanuts, which is an ag commodity, so I want to make sure I am correct before I try to do take the exemption. Thanks in advance.

 

Couple questions. Hauling "raw" peanuts? Once they are roasted, or flavored, or processed in any way except put in storage (silo, etc) they are no longer exempt.

What state(s)?

If you rarely need to log, you can paper log. 8 days in any 30 is the threshold.

If you travel back empty, I believe that has to be logged. @Accidental Trucker do you know that one for sure?

Now, assuming you do meet the exemption: You are exempt and can sign out of the ELD if you have one. When you break the 150 air mile radius, log into the ELD. It will ask about unknown miles, just tell it exempt.

 

The guidance states that the empty inbound, the loaded outbound starting at the first pickup, and the empty return are all HOS exempt if hauling ag commodities. It can lead to some interesting scenarios.

We have a load where we hit the inbound 150 (nautical mile) limit in Sioux Falls SD going to Webster City IA for a pickup. We take on oxygen, load, and then we run almost into Lincoln NE before turning on the ELD. Essentially start at 6 am, and don't turn the ELD on till about 3 PM. Yeah, we still stop to sleep, but we could tack on 700 miles on I80 legally.

As an aside, the inspectors in Oregon now want us to log the Ag exempt miles as PC with the notation "ag exempt", which works a lot better for the back office, because we're not dealing with unassigned miles and all that jazz. Makes for a far cleaner and easier to understand log book.

 

Yes, hauling raw peanuts from storage warehouse to buying point in Ga and Al. Yes, I am logging to the warehouse, but once at warehouse, logging out and once I reach the 172.6 land miles, I'm logging back in and putting exempt for the time ran between warehouse to the 172.6 mile mark.

Now, for instance, like today, I'm hauling only 66 miles roundtrip between points so I'm logged in as personal conveyance, and will note that the hours are exempt, is that also correct way to log for this situation?

Thank you, ZVAR for your help.

 

The way I read it, yes, you are correct, although you can also log the inbound trip to the warehouse (if empty) as HOS exempt (ag exempt).

 

Thank you, I appreciate your help.

 

Can someone please point me to the code # in the green book that explains this ag. Exemption??? I know I qualify to use it but would like to know exactly what the code is before I do use it. Thank you.