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  1. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    I also have been told that anything over 53' requires a OS permit. Never really looked into tho as when I'm over length, I have always been over width as well. So I needed permits anyways
     
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    I am not sure. In their example, as I read it, it says rear overhang 4' and front overhang 3', then is pictures it shows a max trailer length of 59', then shows a 4' rear overhang as OK. It is clear as mud. I go with the 4' and 3'. I should call the number because I mostly run in Texas.
     
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    Clear as mud...yeah. NJ explains it a little better....

    "New Jersey Statutes - Title 39 Motor Vehicles and Traffic Regulation - 39:3-84 Vehicles, dimensional, weight limitations; routes, certain; prohibited.


    (4) The maximum overall length of a motor-drawn vehicle, as set forth in this subsection, including load or contents or any part or portion thereof, except as otherwise provided by this subsection, shall not exceed 53 feet when operated as part of a combination of vehicles consisting of one motor-drawn vehicle and a drawing or power unit vehicle....."
     
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    Actually, now that I read the Texas site more, the 3' front overhang is to the front of the tractor. A trailer length of 59' with an additional 4' of rear overhang. So, with a 53' trailer with 4' overhang you are at 57'. The only limitation to the front would be hitting your tractor.
     
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    Yeah 53 + 4 is how I understood that link for TX non qualifying highways as well. Youre still under the 59 feet so youre ok.
     
  6. snowwy

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    out here in the west. 4 feet is allowed in the front. on a 48 flat. i've got 5 feet to the headache rack. with the 53 step.

    you can go 4 feet rear before needing flags and light bar. after 6 feet you need permits which varies by state as to how long. CO is up to 10 feet before permits are needed. every other state that i've hauled to has been 8 feet. WA, OR, and albuquerque on the only places i've actually had to display the oversize banners. although albuquerque doesn't enforce the banner. the NM scales and permits say your supposed to but i did that once and was told by the receiver that i'm the only truck arrive with banners. so i never bothered after my first lesson. also ran the 550 after that. to which there's no scales make you buy a permit.

    this is all on a 48 flat though. have to learn the new game with the 53. hopefuilly with no citations.
     
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    I always thought any overhang required a red flag. And then once you go over the state's legal limit is when you start needing OD permit, light, etc.

    I've always put a red flag on any legal overhang.
     
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    In Ca. I've heard from drivers hauling step decks no overhang allowed if the entire load is on the bottom deck. I use to haul steel beams from the ports in L.A. that hung over the tail end like, 10-12' with no permits needed, just lights, flags. Can't quote the exact rule, but something like overhang allowed with 1/3rd of trailer wheelbase. So, 48' could hang over 16' without permits. Again, not sure how it reads in the regs.
     
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    I'm just going to talk of this 60' rebar, and the front and back overhang. First off, you might want to check and see if it is 60', most rebar will have a few inches extra, you know "in case" inches. So now if you happen to be in Wy. and are thinking no permit is required, well your incorrect! Permits are needed for anything over 60' no matter what the overhang.

    Now I'd go into the story of how I found this fact out, but it's one that would drag on for to long and the moderators would be scolding me for improper language. But it does go to show that going from one state to the next is a real juggling act of rule books. So good luck on the homework ahead with OS/OW loads, and measure everything twice!
     
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    If your overhang on the rear is wider than 12 inches, you must use a flag on each side.
    A favorite of Texas DOT.................
     
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