ELD exemption

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by ApeHangerGod, Aug 15, 2021.

  1. ApeHangerGod

    ApeHangerGod Bobtail Member

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    I know it’s in here some where, and honestly I don’t have the time or patience to do an adequate search. So I’m hoping someone may have what I’ve looking for bookmarked and can drop a link for me.

    I run paper logs. My truck is a 2000 FLD120 with a Detroit 12.7 manufactured in 1999. I have always been told that an engine manufactured prior to 2000 makes you ELD exempt. I’ve also read this, but can’t find the exact location within the fmcsa website where it is written.

    I recently had a discussion with a Tennessee DOT officer about the ELD exemptions. Thankfully my truck was at home. We ran across each other at an event. Anyhow this DOT officer told me that anything manufactured 1998 and newer has to run ELOGS.

    Now to my request… can anyone drop a link explaining this particular exemption from the FMCSA website? If I’m wrong, awesome. I’ll get an ELD hooked up. But I don’t think I’m wrong. And if I’m not, I’d like to print out the exemption from the FMCSA website to carry in my permit book just in case this DOT officer or others who think the same thing begin to hassle me about paper logs.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    A couple of things. By the time you wrote that story you could have dropped "fmcsa eld exemption engine" in google and clicked the first link.
    Here is the guidance When does the pre-2000 model year exception apply? | FMCSA

    Now you are both wrong, with the DOT officer smoking something and you only slightly wrong.
    The exemption goes off the Engine Model Year, not the manufacturing date. There are a fair few engines that were manufactured in 1999 with an engine model year of 2000. There are also a fair few that were built in Dec 1999 with a model year of 1999....
     
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  4. Bean Jr.

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    All of the 6NZs were manufactured in 1999. At least that's what the guys who are selling them claim. According to what I have read, the 6NZ is a 2000 my, regardless of when it was manufactured, but guys telling me I'm wrong.

    I've got a 1993 my built in 1993 in a 1994 truck, so I don't care about them being wrong.
     
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  5. ApeHangerGod

    ApeHangerGod Bobtail Member

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    Thank you for your response. In honesty, I truly don’t have time to search. I’ve got other things that need to be done. Why waste time to search when I know someone else has already done the research.

    I did print off what you supplied and put it in my permit book. I went through a level 1 just a few days ago at the Manchester, TN scale. I asked that officer the same thing. He told me that I was perfectly legal and printed off even more documentation for me to carry just in case I encounter a misinformed officer again.
     
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  6. Bwilliams1994

    Bwilliams1994 Bobtail Member

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    Yes you are absolutely correct! There are some ELD exemptions mentioned in this trucking blog and that is one of them.
     
  7. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    That blog is pretty inaccurate. The mandate date was 12/18/2017, not February 16, 2016.

    The vehicle exemption is not a manufacture date of before 2000, it is an engine model year of 1999 or earlier, even if the truck was manufactured even as late as 2018, assuming it is a glider. As @ZVar and others are wont to point out, only gliders and trucks that originally came with EPA98 engines can legally have 1999 or earlier engines.

    The shorthaul exemption has been changed to 150 air miles.

    Drive away/ towaway exemption, the towaway exemption only applies if the towed trailer is an rv. Any other trailer is not eld exempt.

    It neglects to include the 8 times in 30 days exemption. If your operations are exempt but 8 or fewer times in a rolling 30 day period your operations would not be exempt, then you will still be exempt from eld requirements. Say you deliver trucks, which is Drive away exempt, but sometimes you use the company truck and put the vehicle you are delivering on a drop frame. Now it's no longer drive away. As long as you do this fewer than 8 times in a 30 day period you will be exempt from eld
     
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  8. Bwilliams1994

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    Thanks for the updated info! much appreciated!
     
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