I know it’s in here some where, and honestly I don’t have the time or patience to do an adequate search. So I’m hoping someone may have what I’ve looking for bookmarked and can drop a link for me.
I run paper logs. My truck is a 2000 FLD120 with a Detroit 12.7 manufactured in 1999. I have always been told that an engine manufactured prior to 2000 makes you ELD exempt. I’ve also read this, but can’t find the exact location within the fmcsa website where it is written.
I recently had a discussion with a Tennessee DOT officer about the ELD exemptions. Thankfully my truck was at home. We ran across each other at an event. Anyhow this DOT officer told me that anything manufactured 1998 and newer has to run ELOGS.
Now to my request… can anyone drop a link explaining this particular exemption from the FMCSA website? If I’m wrong, awesome. I’ll get an ELD hooked up. But I don’t think I’m wrong. And if I’m not, I’d like to print out the exemption from the FMCSA website to carry in my permit book just in case this DOT officer or others who think the same thing begin to hassle me about paper logs.
ELD exemption
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by ApeHangerGod, Aug 15, 2021.
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Here is the guidance When does the pre-2000 model year exception apply? | FMCSA
Now you are both wrong, with the DOT officer smoking something and you only slightly wrong.
The exemption goes off the Engine Model Year, not the manufacturing date. There are a fair few engines that were manufactured in 1999 with an engine model year of 2000. There are also a fair few that were built in Dec 1999 with a model year of 1999....Last edited: Aug 16, 2021
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I've got a 1993 my built in 1993 in a 1994 truck, so I don't care about them being wrong.ZVar Thanks this. -
I did print off what you supplied and put it in my permit book. I went through a level 1 just a few days ago at the Manchester, TN scale. I asked that officer the same thing. He told me that I was perfectly legal and printed off even more documentation for me to carry just in case I encounter a misinformed officer again. -
Yes you are absolutely correct! There are some ELD exemptions mentioned in this trucking blog and that is one of them.
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The vehicle exemption is not a manufacture date of before 2000, it is an engine model year of 1999 or earlier, even if the truck was manufactured even as late as 2018, assuming it is a glider. As @ZVar and others are wont to point out, only gliders and trucks that originally came with EPA98 engines can legally have 1999 or earlier engines.
The shorthaul exemption has been changed to 150 air miles.
Drive away/ towaway exemption, the towaway exemption only applies if the towed trailer is an rv. Any other trailer is not eld exempt.
It neglects to include the 8 times in 30 days exemption. If your operations are exempt but 8 or fewer times in a rolling 30 day period your operations would not be exempt, then you will still be exempt from eld requirements. Say you deliver trucks, which is Drive away exempt, but sometimes you use the company truck and put the vehicle you are delivering on a drop frame. Now it's no longer drive away. As long as you do this fewer than 8 times in a 30 day period you will be exempt from eldZVar and Bwilliams1994 Thank this. -
Thanks for the updated info! much appreciated!
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