(RESOLVED)

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Swadian, Mar 15, 2020.

  1. Swadian

    Swadian Light Load Member

    184
    51
    Jan 21, 2017
    Reno, NV, USA
    0
    I have a 1998 Series 60 12.7L. According to this link http://www.pcmarinesurveys.com/Biodiesel Detroit.pdf, I shouldn't use more than B5 biodiesel. But when I'm doing runs to Oregon, there's only B20 biodiesel everywhere. Is there anywhere in Oregon to avoid B20 biodiesel, or is B20 acceptable for this engine?
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2020
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    I’m not sure about bus drivers, but truckers are subject to the weight-mile tax. Oregon does not have a fuel tax for truckers. They’re not part of IFTA.
     
    G13Tomcat Thanks this.
  4. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    I have a DD15 engine, and Detroit is also saying mine should only use up to 5% biodiesel blend. It looks like this is only a warranty issue. I read somewhere that you should change your fuel filters 1/2 the regular interval if you’ll be using higher than B5.
     
    G13Tomcat Thanks this.
  5. MM71

    MM71 Heavy Load Member

    753
    974
    Jun 28, 2008
    AZ
    0
    You will be fine ... except when the tax man comes a callin. Most of the time it is better to buy fuel out of Oregon than in and pay the ifta.

    If you really wanna chooch up your ol detroit. Throw some marvel mystery oil in the tank. Has tons of sulfur in it ... like the good ol days.
     
  6. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

    9,612
    37,386
    Mar 4, 2015
    0
    If your bus is registered over 26000 pounds you should be paying the weight mile tax but I suspect you’re not. And fuel in OR has to be bio diesel thanks to a bill passed a few years back.
     
  7. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    I’m not sure that makes any difference. You will pay OR for the miles you drove based on your weight, and for IFTA, it’s based on gallons burned per state, depending on your mpg, which accounts for miles in OR, although OR doesn’t receive any money from IFTA. OR miles are only accounted for proper mpg calculation.
     
  8. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    Now this is an interesting point, considering that now many states sell some biodiesel blend. I checked IFTA tax charts, and most states have the same tax rate for both diesel and biodiesel, but a few states either have a different tax rate or no tax rate for biodiesel. I’m guessing this is something that will have to be addressed by IFTA in the coming years, seeing how biodiesel is becoming more and more common.
     
  9. MM71

    MM71 Heavy Load Member

    753
    974
    Jun 28, 2008
    AZ
    0
    Point wasnt that bio has a different tax rate ... Point was, I run Oregon weekly. Depending on where you fuel. The Oregon PUC price is higher than Washington, Idaho, Nevada, California less ifta.
     
    krupa530 Thanks this.
  10. Swadian

    Swadian Light Load Member

    184
    51
    Jan 21, 2017
    Reno, NV, USA
    0
    I'm not paying any tax because I have 0 passengers (coronavirus) and 0 miles. If I had miles I'd pay the tax but I'm not running any miles until I have passengers and figure out if I can run B20 in an old Series 60.
     
  11. Swadian

    Swadian Light Load Member

    184
    51
    Jan 21, 2017
    Reno, NV, USA
    0
    DD told me you can run B20 in a DD15 but NOT in a 1998 Series 60. That's the big problem. Weight-mile tax isn't the problem. B20 is.

    Also can you use R100 "Renewable Biodiesel" in a Series 60? Detroit doesn't mention: https://dtnacontent-dtna.prd.freigh...troit Renewable Diesel Position Statement.pdf.
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2020
    PE_T Thanks this.
  12. Swadian

    Swadian Light Load Member

    184
    51
    Jan 21, 2017
    Reno, NV, USA
    0
    B5 diesel found at Flying J Oakland and Love's Roseburg. That should fix the problem.
     
    PE_T Thanks this.
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.