Could You Stay in Business or No?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Midwest Trucker, Mar 12, 2020.

Would you go broke?

  1. Yes

    15 vote(s)
    19.0%
  2. No

    55 vote(s)
    69.6%
  3. Maybe

    9 vote(s)
    11.4%
  1. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    Market went down 390 points on Friday . Trump announced the Reality that there is going to be a Lot of Unavoidable death the next couple weeks on Saturday .

    2.5trillion in wealth has already evaporated. This week will be Epic im bettin.

    This no normal turndown in the market. My dad has been wiped out a million in the market before costing many more millions in personal economic repercussion following.

    When I asked my dad who has played And invested for 70 years and knew and constantly studied the Market "What happened"?

    He got out his nice pen and wrote down on a piece of paper and pushed it over to me.

    On that piece of paper one word.















    GREED

    Live to Fight another day.
     
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  3. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Depends on the tax consequences.

    I hope she listened. Keep your money and buy back in at bargain prices.
     
  4. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    Why would you cash out a 401k at the bottom of the market? That makes no sense. By fall the a market will probably be back to 25k and you’ll have gained back half of your “losses” in short order.
     
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  5. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    Is this the Bottom? The market has been driven hard on cheap money and false earnings.

    The last 3 years earnings are gone, as they should be because that was fluff.

    So at 20 it has returned to its real value baseline, if you can even call it that.

    The economic repercussions have not even begun to happen yet.

    Travel and tourism will be nothing as most people won't have a dime left on their credit cards and most retirees saw their savings melt. So knock out airlines,hotels, car rentals, cruise lines.

    Speaking of criuise lines how easy you think it will be to get people back on those things after all they have seen of them on tv endlessly wandering the seas looking for a port .

    And once again housing has done nothing but go up and up as have property values.They will take a hit.

    My dad almost got wiped out back in the early 80s by the credit crunch of 18 % interest rates.

    He owned outright millions of dollars of luxury homes he had built and millions of dollars of land to develop.
    Dad despised banks.

    There is a lot of bills to pay with taxes and insurance when you own all that and when your cash poor it can get bad. My dad slowly auctioned off houses for 50cents on the dollar of what he had into them just to keep up on taxes and insurance.

    It took years for the economy to start to turn around and my dad slowly get rid of the houses. Than in 87 we had another recession but he was not as heavily leveraged so not so much of an impact.

    The economy can come to a halt, and it did back in the early eighties but nothing like this.

    Just gun shy. I have 2 brothers that are multi millionaires one of them probably around 20 million. He has been out of the market for a year and slowly selling off some of his commercial real estate.

    I get a lot of wisdom thrown my way.
     
  6. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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    Wait, are you the guy who bought an old pre emission truck last year in IN and took it to MI?
    Why your dad and brothers are millionaires and you are a wannabe o/o?
     
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  7. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Cash out BEFORE the slide.

    And with nobody issuing revenue guidance. And manufacturing at a standstill. The market has nowhere to go but down.
     
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  8. TTNJ

    TTNJ Heavy Load Member

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    Classic!
     
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  9. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    Well... This is America and everybody can choose their path. It is a good ambition to build something from scratch, and even better to have a rich family to give a hand in case it goes awry. I would not mind....LOL

    Anyway, Naples, FL, rich and beautiful town. I went there last year. You can feel the luxury is in the air.
     
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  10. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    Wall Street already has priced in the worst case scenario. It would take absolute doomsday for it to go below 18,000. I though it would go down to 15,000 but the fact it didn’t a couple weeks ago tells me it’s not going too. If I had cash I didn’t have to hold back to bail out my own business, I would have bought at around 19,000 and laughed all the way to the bank by this fall. It’s still extremely interesting that doomsday today under 45 is still higher then the highest of 44. Says a lot.

    Anyone that cashed out right now deserves every bit of what they get. You would have to be an absolute moron. No offense to anyone. Just my opinion.
     
  11. SteveScott

    SteveScott Road Train Member

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    I cashed out most of my portfolio in January (saved me a fortune) and reinvested in TeleDoc and some other teleconferencing companies that have been doing great. Been buying back some of what I sold in January, and so far, so good. My dad is my stock guru and he's tuned online in every second the markets are open. I wish I had his drive, and free time to play the markets.
     
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