“The brokers make too much”

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Long FLD, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    I wouldn't classify that as you back soliciting, at least not actively.
     
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  3. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    Im generally very against back soliciting but this case is definitely different. The broker was playing games and lying big time. It’s just two gentlemen talking discovery at that point. As for the $1200... I don’t see a problem with making $1200 but certainly not the way that broker was doing it. He should have made his $200 and moved on to the next one.

    Ultimately he got what he deserved. Made one big score and lost out on multiple future smaller scores. That mentality won’t take him far.
     
  4. LoneRanger

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    All I see are people who appose regulation when it benefits them yet for it because it also benefits them.

    you can’t sit there and say it’s ok for a carrier to back solicit a shipper if the broker lied to the shipper but not ok for carrier to back solicit if the broker lied to the carrier.

    Or the cdl industry needs to be regulated because to many are getting into it easily yet brokers shouldn’t because well their brokers.

    some of you are against foreigners coming here on work visas to drive but against the idea of brokers being regulated.

    you guys need to make up your minds you can’t be running around and saying death to regulation because I’m against it but more regulation when it hurts my bottom dollar.


    Once again either all or none is the only way.
     
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  5. Ridgeline

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    I have to agree, it was much easier than.

    I read through most of the crying, a few make sense while others just don't seem to get that it doesn't matter what the broker gets, if you had direct customers then there would be a rate reduction, not a rate increase.
     
  6. 062

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    I’m surprised that with your vast knowledge of brokering freight that you have never heard of a shipper sending out emails of available loads. I can think of three shippers within 30 miles of me that still have a traffic department. One of those will have 50-70 loads per week and they are up for grabs to anyone on the email list. This can explain some of the “ double brokering “ and cancelled loads. The broker never actually had the loads to start with.
     
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  7. TallJoe

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    I see a distinct difference between "crying" and discussion, which is what any forum is for. Possible solutions presented, discussed, agreed or disagreed upon.

    I remember specifically You, not too long ago, exactly crying here about Russians approaching your customers and trying to steal them from you. Tell me now, was their attempt deplorable (I think so) or admirable?

    The same "crying" (in my view, peaceful discussion) here was related to brokers profiteering at the expense of owner operators ...and whether or not it should be stopped.

    P.S.
    Those in favor of not regulating brokers pay, should, by the same logic, say nothing negative about undercutting rates.
     
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  8. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    I’ve never complained about anyone cutting rates. It’s going to happen. When I hauled cattle we were at $4 and people were doing it for $3.80. If you prorate the weight over 50k someone comes along and won’t prorate until 55k. It’s business, it happens. Those guys don’t stick around long. So by your logic I am allowed to keep pointing out that crying for the government to regulate someone else’s pay/profit/cut while you yourself are supposed to be a “business owner” is a bad road to go down. Those that want it are shortsighted and aren’t thinking of the long term consequences to their short term solution.
     
  9. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    That was mostly for effect. These guys want rate control or whatever they want to call it and we had that once. And if it never went away the people her complaining wouldn’t even own a truck right now.

    But I will say, up until SD was deregulated in the 90’s a guy could make a good living being home every night and you didn’t need 13 axles or the ability to haul 1800 bushel to do it.
     
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  10. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    I don't see how they make any money hauling 1800 bushel at the rate they pay for SD intrastate. I'd like to know how they get those doubles down to Sioux City without getting caught.
     
  11. LoneRanger

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    @Long FLD so your family was able to get an MC during regulation period but no one here on this board could get one if Deregulation had not occurred?



     
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