Companies without cameras in their trucks

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  1. Jst1975

    Jst1975 Bobtail Member

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    Companies without cameras in their trucks! How many if any trucking companies don't have cameras in their trucks
     
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  3. zaroba

    zaroba Heavy Load Member

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    John Christianer Trucking didn't.
     
  4. any name you wish

    any name you wish Light Load Member

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    You aren't allowed to ask that. You're only allowed to ask which companies have driver-facing cameras.

    Many truckers have been brainwashed into thinking that a camera pointing to the road, that tattles on their every wrong move is somehow for their own good. That would be like saying that a camera on your car dash that transmits to the police station, instead of just being available for your personal review, is for your own good. To my knowledge, there are no such lists, due to the ease in duping truckers into helping their corporate masters gain posture, and any such lists would probably be under pressure to be taken down by any of the various censoring organizations that do things like sanitizing company reviews, etc.

    I would almost support having cameras in trucks if they weren't tattle machines. I personally wouldn't mind going over my driving from time to time in order to self-improve. I like doing a better job, but I won't tolerate doing it under threat, or having additional stress self-fulfill unsafe driving and sleep problems. I know which so-called "violations" to take the most seriously (even some the camera wouldn't even cite me for, because of their complexity). I might also tolerate cameras for drivers who have had recent negligence-related incidents, or little experience. However, every bit of 98 percent of so-called "violations" that are reported to the companies have an almost zero chance of actually causing an accident, but instead serve as excuses to lower your pay, or accumulate transgressions in order to put you on notice so that eventually you can more easily be fired for just about any marginal thing (even just not being liked) as a final straw. They may be used to make you feel self-conscious/humble about being a good enough employee to negotiate for better routes—even when those better routes put the more camera-accepting drivers in far fewer situations where the camera even risks being triggered (for example, 80 percent of my violations had been in PA for brief downhill-to-uphill speed spurts caused by attempts to save fuel with heavy hauls—that remained within the speed limits—but triggered the truck governor warning. The company wouldn't stop sending me to PA despite my pleading, so I quit). They also serve to help the companies make honest mistakes look like perpetrated wrongs, by identifying them as technical law violations—in order to make a lack of competency at driving a truck appear as guile to the unemployment agency, in order to lower the trucking company's unemployment insurance costs.

    Driving a truck in the winter-time is probably ten times more dangerous than driving while texting, but it's OK. The risk to your life is obviously not important to you; only the delivery of freight upon demand is. I-80 across PA is a veritable truck graveyard in the winter. If texting was comparatively a problem to the same degree, it would look similar in the Summer. Inability to sleep, exhaustion resulting from not finding parking places, truck/truck stop noise while sleeping, door-banging lot-lizards, and fumes in lots are big root problems for driver error, but root problems are not their problems, and their existence threatens the ability to use cameras as intimidation tools, so providing the industry with enough truckers shouldn't be our problem either; just quit, and do something else for a living.
     
  5. Mototom

    Mototom Road Train Member

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    I don’t know but will be looking soon, I think the kids have that idea in their head and turning us down to 65 from 70-72
     
  6. MooreTransport

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    I drive for Sorenson Transport out of Washington state, and we don't have dash cams....yet. Most of the other companies I have worked for went to these cameras, but my current company is holding out for now.

    Dash cams are a double edged sword, if they are facing inward and outward. I'm 100% for dash cams facing outward, but am 1000% against inward facing cams.

    I was working for a company hauling storage containers, and we had the in and out facing cameras. When I took a rt turn at a stop light, my trailer tire went over the curb and knocked my phone out of its holder and on to the floor under my brake pedal. I reached down and grabbed it as I pulled up to the next light. When I hit brakes, it was too sudden and made the camera send video to company. When the company saw me grabbing my phone up from under my brake pedal, they considered it distracted driving and terminated me on the spot......didn't listen to an explanation.
     
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  7. TravR1

    TravR1 Road Train Member

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    I drive for Shaffer, it doesn't have a camera at all. I use my own forward facing camera.

    It doesn't have those silly on guard alarms either.

    FFE uses forward facing cameras only.
     
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  8. Mototom

    Mototom Road Train Member

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    None at all? That’s pretty cool even my little outfit threw a camera in the trucks (mostly because guys were smashing up cars left and right lol)
     
  9. TravR1

    TravR1 Road Train Member

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    I was surprised there wasn't a forward camera. Not sure if it's just my truck or what. I'm running my own instead.
     
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    88 Alpha Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    You have much to learn about this forum.
     
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