Let's go back to pre 1978. Have to have a customer before you can get authority. And other carriers can contest it. People should put as much effort into getting their own customers as they do whining about brokers
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Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by Dino soar, May 23, 2020.
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They rule currently that is not enforced is that all parties to the transaction have a right to see the record.
Do shippers ever desire to see the record? Does the agreement with the broker have the shipper waive their right to see the record?
If the transparency rule is enforced, would the shippers see the record also? What would the effect be if they shipper saw that the broker was getting paid $75 an hour for detention, but he gave the truck $40 an hour? What would the effect be if the shipper saw that the broker was paid $2000 to move the load yet the Carrier was paid let's say $1200?
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Customers rarely care what the carrier gets paid. Most customers have a contract price (some with, some without FSC)for X amount of time. Capacity goes down, spot rate goes up they expect the broker to cover the load(s) at the contracted rate. Don't/can't, good bye customer.
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You seem to be on a huge kick about these brokers being regulated but then some of the other threads I see you starting sound like you aren't even in business yet?[/QUOTE]
I am a new owner operator. Right now I am self quarantining because I have been exposed to covid19.
And just to say it I am fine with money and the rates are what they are. If the transparency issue came up when the rates were high I would still have the same lean. It is more of a philosophical issue with me than an issue of oh my God I'm broke government help. No no no no no.
I have no interest in brokers being regulated. The rule is already on the books. They should enforce it or remove it in my opinion, nothing more, nothing less.
With that being said, the reason that I have posted these articles is because I want to hear the discussion. I'm not intrested in fighting with anyone I'm not intrested in pushing my point of view down anyone's throat. Quite the opposite.
I want to hear the different opinions about it and if I see a valid reason I have no problem changing how I feel about it.
There are 3 main arguments that I hear.
The 1st argument is if they enforce the rule that's on the books somehow that will lead to more regulation. That doesn't make sense to me. If they had to sit down and re write the regulations definitely bad idea. Never should you cap what the broker makes.
The 2nd issue is underbidding. That has been going on forever in every industry and I do not see it will be better or worse. It is like the world's oldest profession. It just continues on and on.
The 3rd argument is that if anyone is for transparency they are flat broke they have no business in this business there losers they're idiots they're morons and the hell with them.
It is definitely true that there is a segment of owner operators that are flat broke and if they can't work this week to pay bills from the last 2 weeks they will go under. I get that and it is very true and accurate. However there is not a 100% correlation between flat broke owner operators and business owners that feel enforcing the rule that is already on the books would be beneficial. I know that some of the guys right here on this site that support transparency are not flat broke bums.
So I just want to hear good factual reasonable arguments that are not shaming or blaming or generalizing.
It is very interesting to hear the arguments and maybe someone will say something I've never thought of and I'll see it the other way. Who knows?
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