OOIDA petitions Elaine Chao/Jim Mullen.

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by OldW900AOwner, May 19, 2020.

  1. OldW900AOwner

    OldW900AOwner Light Load Member

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    No...it ain't my problem...it's YOURS, for being that naive to be willing to pay the broker's that are charging that much, when you coulda put the word out there in many other ways looking for a trucker to do it for you directly. No skin off my nose that you wanna pay double. In this day and age, it's ain't very ####### hard to do some research.
     
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  3. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    So you basically just admitted that the rate to move the load would be the same, the shipper would just pay less and the broker would make less.
     
  4. Nobroker

    Nobroker Medium Load Member

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    Okay we know this is how this business works, it doesnt make it legal or fair. The day will arrive when there is nobody left for them to screw. The trucking and shipping industry is dealing our hand with a stacked beck.
     
  5. Arch Stanton

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    I don't think they will ever run out of people to screw there is a fool born every second and too many of those think their road to riches is owning a truck.
    Lets say the rates were raised by waving a magic wand and nobody made less 1200$ a day when the truck was under a load, you know what would happen there would be 3 times as many trucks available in 2 years and you could not get enough loads to make any money and once again we get to see lots of bankruptcies ,the same feast and famine or binge and purge cycle.
    Freedom to do what you want comes with the law of unintended consequences everyone that wants to make his fortune in trucking won't and can't, only so many are needed.
    I would like to see a lot education on cost of ownership as part of the CDL testing and taught in the trucking schools.
     
  6. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    Yes man!!!! It's insane for real!!! Burgers are gold right now if cooked at home lol
     
  7. OldW900AOwner

    OldW900AOwner Light Load Member

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    This is why social media to me, is a lost cause. No, that's not what I "admitted" at all. I'm done trying to make a valid point. Carry on. I haven't learned anything in this business in the past 40 years evidently. Only how to build trucks, do everything with my own two hands that needs done, and build solid relationships and have steady customers in both transport and sales. Other than that I'm a dummy. I admit it.
     
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  8. OldW900AOwner

    OldW900AOwner Light Load Member

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    Correct. "Only so many are needed" is also a strong point you made. There's only so much work to go around, and so many trucks needed to do it. Once the demand is fulfilled, then comes saturation, and reduction in rates due to too much competition.

    It's like having 5 gas stations on a 4 cornered street...someone's gonna suffer a loss eventually while dragging the others down.
     
  9. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    This is an excellent post.

    This is a person that has been in business for a long time who obviously knows how to make money who sees what the issue is with the system set up as it is.

    He is factual and logical and giving you real world dollar figures on what is happening.

    He is pointing out a problem that exists. Even if you are on the other side of the issue, can't you see that this does happen?
     
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  10. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Maybe somebody willing to pay that doesn't want to have put up with 100 different morons calling about the load? If I'm willing to pay the broker 2k to get it moved, and some idiot takes it off the brokers hand for 500, what do I care? I don't think you understand what it actually means to be WILLING to pay that.
     
  11. Long FLD

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    You as a shipper sign a contract with a broker to move a load for a certain amount. One would have to assume that at the time you agree to let them move the load that you were happy with the rate.

    You as a trucker sign a contract with a broker to move that same load for a certain amount. One would have to assume that at the time you agreed to haul it that you were happy with the rate otherwise you would’ve just said no.

    What changes those two statements once the three parties of the two separate transactions are made aware of the money that was involved? Maybe the shipper uses another broker next time? Maybe the trucker doesn’t use that broker again? Maybe the shipper is happy with the broker for getting the load moved hassle free and doesn’t care what it costs? Maybe the trucker gets direct freight from that shipper at a lesser rate than they’re willing to pay because they just proved they’d do it cheaper?

    What many of us are saying is simply that counting other people’s money is a slippery slope to go down. When it was said earlier in the thread that the guy mentioned what he got paid and they were both upset with what the broker made, well at the time that they both agreed to their end of that transaction they were both happy with the dollar amounts that the broker gave them. There was a whole period of time where both sides were happy with the separate business transactions, it was only at the end when they found out what the third party made when two of the parties became upset. The trucker wanted more money in his pocket, the shipper wanted more money in his, and both wanted less money in the broker’s pocket but really he did what he said he would. He got the load moved for the shipper.
     
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