Leased on Owner Op Ideas

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Midwest Trucker, May 26, 2020.

  1. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    I was just trying to think of ways to stand out or attract owner ops. If I was an owner op and I got 70%. Ummm ok, 70% of what?!? lol. Or places that say 85%... well the 70% deal may be better. But if I saw... $3500 min and up guaranteed I might be like alright! Let’s give this a try over the others. But, as this thread proves not everyone sees things the same way. I did gain a bit of perspective I suppose.
     
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  3. Constant Learner

    Constant Learner Medium Load Member

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    He signs YOUR CONTRACT with your rules inside. You control his freight as well. Doesn't
    matter how you treat him, he works for you. And you try to maximize his revenue, not yours,
    right?
     
  4. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    Contract lays everything out for BOTH sides, not just the carrier owner. It covers the rights and responsibilities of both sides. Which is why I read over my contract (Or ICA) VERY carefully to ensure MY rights and responsibilities are fully explained AND enforced.

    And not his once, either. I find it a great way to change my sleep schedule. It's a boring as heck read, but I know my contract inside and out.
     
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  5. F4T6UY

    F4T6UY Medium Load Member

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    Why not rather than make a guy feel like he has an “obligation” to be available to you, maybe offer a 34 and out bonus and every week. Gets in on a Monday afternoon, calls you and says ‘I’m available for dispatch Wednesday morning.’ Boom. Hundred dollar bill in his account. Does that 40 weeks out of the year. An extra 4 grand in his pocket just for running your numbers. (Or a $200 bonus. I don’t know what would be feasible/reasonable). ”34 And Out Bonus!!” could still give you ad/company that unique pop.

    I can only assume you want to both motivate for higher revenue and offer something others aren’t.

    Just throwing things out there. I like new ideas.

    But O/O definitely don’t wanna feel obligated...from what I gather.


    And there in lies the biggest challenge...
     
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  6. Constant Learner

    Constant Learner Medium Load Member

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    Yeah, both sides, right. It is created by the carrier and you have 2 options: to sign it or not.
    It is the same for the carrier and the broker, btw. The carrier has 2 options: to sign it and haul
    the broker's freight, or not and have no freight to haul.

    I am curious what is your rpm at that so much caring for you large company, and how many miles
    you run per week.
     
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  7. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    Not to be a Richard, but a $100 wouldn’t get me to Rollover in bed on a day off.

    When I hauled milk as a company driver I could make an extra $100 a day in accessory pay without trying.

    Life is Short.
     
  8. F4T6UY

    F4T6UY Medium Load Member

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    I agree, lol. I’m not one to jump for a hundy either.

    But it’s all a matter of perception. And numbers. A motivated O/O could make more money on a hundred dollar bonus, than a weekly 3500 gross guarantee.

    But I’m just helping the OP spitball. I currently hold this here steering wheel for somebody else, and I don’t claim to know nuffin bout nuffin.
     
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  9. Ridgeline

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    Yes it is my contract, but he isn't a slave, he has choices and those choices include his ability to say no to the contract or the loads that don't work for his business.

    Too many carriers treat the owner as if they are slaves.

    He works with me in a limited capacity, I can't force him to take work that causes him to lose money, or damage his reputation, I can ask him only to consider the offer and if he refuses, he can't be punished, I have to respect that type of relationship.

    If a carrier acts as if the owner is an employee, then under the legal umbrella he is. It isn't a grey area, it is black and white because how the regs are written and how the hundreds of court decisions have been decided.

    The contract is there to level the playing field for both parties and the customer. The contract spells out everything.

    My contract for my drivers is long, it is detailed and with each driver before he/she signs it, it is gone through with the driver and discussed point by point to make sure everyone knows exactly what is in it, no hidden gotchas or crap that ruines a relationship. It takes time to do this but it saves time later on. It costs me money to do this, contracts are not cheap to create but I know owners and carriers who copy others which is cheap.

    I have gone through contracts with carriers that are three or five pages with a lack of any defining responsibilities. I've walked away from a dozen carriers with worthless contracts because money isn't everything.

    The worst situation for any carrier is to offer all kinds of rewards to retain contractors.

    Handing out money is well ... counter productive in the long run.

    The best carriers put more revenue into a contractor's pocket with consistence good loads than any thing else.

    They do it by having a higher rate than rewards.
     
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  10. F4T6UY

    F4T6UY Medium Load Member

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    Well, yeah. When you put it like that, I guess my idea sounds pretty gimmicky, lol.

    Sorry, Midwest. Guess you’re gonna have to just do it the old fashioned way. Give em the most money and and build it up slow and steady like through word of mouth. Oh well
     
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  11. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    And I have absolutely zero curiosity about any part of your business.

    My RPM is quite satisfactory, thank you. And my contract with my carrier is equally satisfactory. Otherwise, I wouldn't be pulling for this carrier.
     
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