What Hydraulic Oil for Challenger 607 Vacuum Pump?

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  1. TheBaron97

    TheBaron97 Light Load Member

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    Hey first time posting here. I run a water tanker in the Bakken hauling off waste water from well sites. I run a Challenger 607 Vacuum Pump on my tanker and I'm wondering what hydraulic oils are acceptable to run and if there are long term negative effects to not using NVE pump oil? Most folks I know used to run that Super Trac stuff from tractor supply. But they stopped carrying it and now they sell the VP racing utility tractor oil as their cheap stuff (31.99)a Traveller premium as their newer more expensive stuff (41.99). I guess I'm wondering if long term I'll do better running the more expensive stuff or not? Are there specific additives in the NVE oil that help deal with the water and salt exhaust that constantly run through my pump?
    Also my vacuum pump has a maximum operating temperature of 375° degrees and regularly gets to 300° degrees (depending on the temperature of the water I'm pulling). And this VP Racing stuff is recommended for use in ambient temperatures between 0°-122° Fahrenheit. Any suggestions would be much appreciated, thanks in advance.
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  3. bonder45

    bonder45 Road Train Member

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    Not that I have any relevant information because I run a gear pump but Welcome to the Bakken!...seems to be slowly picking up out this way.
     
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  4. TheBaron97

    TheBaron97 Light Load Member

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    Thanks! I came here in 2014 and then left for a few years but I've been running water for the last three. It's definitely slow but it will pick up soon I bet
     
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    Cant wait for the oilfield to pick back up!
     
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  6. JDHIGGINS44

    JDHIGGINS44 Light Load Member

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    We run Shell T32 Turbine oil in all our vacuum pumps regardless of make and do not have any issues.
     
  7. TheBaron97

    TheBaron97 Light Load Member

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    That's expensive vacuum pump oil. Do you use it in the pumps themselves or do you use them to run the wet kit? Where do you buy it from?
     
  8. JDHIGGINS44

    JDHIGGINS44 Light Load Member

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    We run it in the pumps themselves. Our fleet is about 50/50 between wet line powered and driveshaft driven pumps. We buy it through our local Shell supplier. It is certainly not the cheapest, but neither is the failure of a 5K pump. In the grand scheme of things the amount of oil your pump should burn if set correctly is very minimal unless you are double shifting the truck and running 24 hour days with a large number of loads / load/ unloading time.
     
  9. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

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    I took at look at NVE's website, and the oil they sell is listed as R&O ISO 68 / SAE30 ND. R&O means "rust- and oxidation-inhibited," and ND means "non-detergent." Their website also says that their oil is recommended but not required. So any R&O ISO 68 / SAE 30 non-detergent oil should work just fine.
     
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  10. TheBaron97

    TheBaron97 Light Load Member

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    Great, that actually helps me out a lot. I didn't know what those meant but now that you bring them up I remember that I see them on the back of hydraulic jugs. So it shouldn't be too hard to look around and find a hydraulic oil that meets that criteria.
     
  11. JPenn

    JPenn Road Train Member

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    Getting in on this late, but when I was in the oilfield, we bought the Shell T32 turbine oil by the drum. Yeah, it's expensive, but so is getting a pump rebuilt or replaced. Oil's a consumable, use good stuff and have your oil injection set correctly and that Challenger will last you a long time provided you don't overspeed it.

    The oil for the wet line is entirely different, viscosity, weight, color, everything. DON'T mix these up, use hydraulic oil in the wet line and turbine oil in the vacuum pump.
     
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