Again California Has Lost Its Mind

Agility preorders 1,000 Hyliion hybrid-electric trucks - FreightWaves
I always thought hybrid trucks have a better rate of return with existing infrastructure, than electric vehicles. This company installs regenerating axles on the trailers also ($500 a month rental). Also batteries could power electric APUs at night.

 

California doesn't have the electric generation capacity now to power what they have. Where they going to get the capacity to charge all these "electric" trucks?

 

Man, I called for that when I started. I said why can’t they do “x” and everyone said “weight limits”.

fairy dust.

 

Instead of charging for reserved parking Pilot will be charging to plug the truck in for 10 hours.

Of course a full charge will only allow you to drive for 6 hours at 55mph because more batteries would mean less trailer capacity and the megas would be fine with drivers only moving 300 miles a day.

 

It'll be a hell of a deficit, that's for sure. I know they already buy some from us in B.C. I'm all for a marginal increase on my hydro bill if it will help put the shenanigans to a stop

On another note:

What happens to the price of electricity when everyone and their brother has an electric truck, car, farm tractor, excavator, whatever else. Someone has to pay for the tremendous infrastructure upgrades. Enjoy your cheap energy for a few years then watch it's cost skyrocket.

In my opinion, it's a wash. Negative Impact on the environment will always be there. Wayyyy to much electricity is "dirty."

We just now, half got the latest emissions stuff figured out. And our diesel exhaust is cleaner, great! But now we burn more fuel to clean the exhaust. And you gotta refine and truck that fuel, and produce and truck the DEF. And manufacture more junk parts. And mine the previous metals in the junk parts. Then guys just pressure wash their DPFs in the driveway anyways. Or the shop empties the garbage they shook your DPF into and that makes it's way into the ground. That stupid CARB shook the business in the US and Canada enough with just that.....

I've seen a little "aa" lithium battery catch fire, imagine an electric truck!

I can see the appeal for certain applications, sure, but for "one size fits all?" Nah. I'll pay a few bucks more for fuel and maintenance, and have fun doing it for another 20-30 years

A bit of a rant, but F California

 

Worse than that, look at all these Tesla fires. You can totally suppress a fire, (after the truck is destroyed) tow it away, and hours later if there’s still a charge in the battery somewhere it can start all over again.

Not to take California’s side but how is that any different than paying for diesel now? I’m sure the truck stops won’t be able to make as much of a margin on electricity as they do now. So I see a future of $5 Little Debbies. And how many kilowatts do you need to get a free shower?

As far as a 300 mile day? I wish. (Well, maybe not) considering how many times I’ve run hot loads that “have to be there tomorrow!” Even though they took way too long to load it, now I gotta run overnight 9-11 hours straight with no time for food or a nap because the shipper took forever.

I don’t see the industry being satisfied with a 300 mile/day standard, unless we were hot swapping trailers. Which we COULD be doing now but the office side of the industry won’t because it’s more work for THEM.

Look around your truckstop. How many loads are stationary because a driver’s on his 10? You don’t think with the data available a mega couldn’t say, “you’ll be out of hours at 10pm, and you’ll be on Interstate 81 in VA. You are to meet with Driver 45612 who will just be coming off break, give him your trailer and take a 10, your next load will arrive at 8am.”

Heck, just think about how much MORE room there would be at the Pilot if they only had to accommodate bobtails!

 

The parking lots in all the chain truck stops would be full of dropped trailers and bobtail trucks.

 

Where do these fools think electricity comes from to charge these batteries?
What are they going to do with all the hazardous waste created when these batteries need to be discarded or replaced?
What happens when they get stuck in a snowstorm and the batteries die, leaving no heat, cold reduces the capacity of the batteries?

 

*time to buy a Freightliner dealership in Nevada*

Come on, I live in PA, my truck is domiciled in PA but leased through Ryder and registered in Indiana. Does it really matter where an OTR truck is “SOLD”?