If you had $70K to start on your own would you buy outright or finance?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by staceydude, Jun 27, 2020.

  1. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    you are 54 now, and in short time, you don;t want to do a dam thing.(according to you, above)

    buy paying off in full may sound great on the surface, you will quickly bore of the ownership of a truck, as you have nothing to work for.

    what i mean is, sure you'll be earning a paycheck, even banking some. but you will not have any desire to actually work since you will not have a bank to answer to to repay that loan you should have.

    you'll wanna take time off, LOTS OF TIME, and that truck will sit, all the while, the insurance and taxes are still due each month....see what i mean???

    paying cash, gives you NO REASON to get off your butt and go to work each day.

    you want validation for what YOU want to do, and i WILL NOT GIVE it to you.
     
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  3. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    why is that a bad thing? There’s more to life then running a truck down the road, as long as he pays insurance/plates etc How much profit on top of it is all up to him.

    fwiw, it’s almost $100 a calander day just to have the truck Ready to go to work, so make sure it’s budgeted If you do want to take time off, personally I have been taking a week every ten weeks or so to go through and fix any problems/maintenance on my truck/trailer, so it’s not really a week off, I just don’t get paid for any of it.
     
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  4. Kshaw0960

    Kshaw0960 Road Train Member

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    I’ve owned 5 trucks and never had a payment. That said, I would invest the $70k elsewhere and work as a company driver, maybe local, with benefits.

    However personally I love my freedom and enjoy what I do. So, with $70k I would buy a 2014 cascadia from Ryder (I just bought one with 400k miles for $27k problem free so far). Let’s assume maybe $33k for truck. $2k apportioned plates, NM, KY permit, HVUT. Now we at $35k. A bit more thousand for the “unicorn” update. Followed by buying a trailer, used so you don’t pay that crazy tax. As close to new as you can get. So around $20k for dryvan, more for a full aluminum spread axle flatbed. Don’t buy a reefer. Still money left to pay insurance all at once, and a bit saved in the bank.

    As far as an older pre emission truck, I have 3 and they are solid trucks now, but weren’t when purchased. There is so many things that go wrong until you’ve owned them long enough where they become reliable. Even if it’s just a $10 fitting or part, it’s still going to destroy the day depending where in the country you are. I truly believe a newer truck, with the prices so low since the economy tanked, is more likely to be successful.
     
  5. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    With 70k i would get something 99 or older. A good bones truck for 15k and go thru it with a fine comb and fix everything on it. Finance a brand new trailer. And get own authority. Run spot market and work on building up relationships with brokers. Until u can find a decent lane to run and get ur own customer
     
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  6. GoneButNotForgotten

    GoneButNotForgotten Heavy Load Member

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    Have to agree with this perspective. Almost sounds like you are buying a job.
     
  7. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    Someone that isn’t motivated enough to leave the house because they don’t have payments is probably better off staying a company hand. I have very minimal payments but I still go to work most of the time. When you don’t have payments, and you have a truck and trailer, you start building money real fast. And I kind of like money. So the more I save the more I want to work. Until I don’t want to work. Like this week. I don’t want to work this week, so I’m not.
     
  8. Bakerman

    Bakerman Road Train Member

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    What does your mechanic friend say about buying a truck?
     
  9. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    It gives me the impression he/the OP has allready decided what to buy and he/the OP just wants us to endorse his choice.
    Not the bussiness mindset you need or want.
    You want to buy the truck that is right for what your needs are.

    I have never bought a truck with resale value in mind.
    You never know what will happen in the future,so why count on resale value?

    Your reply does lessen my worry about your attitude.

    You say the heavy stuff will not be done by you but at a shop.
    For me that rules out a pre emissions truck.

    For more advice we would need to know where you are planning to run.
    What kind off work?
    How many miles in 1 year?
    Weight to be loaded?(do you need a superlight truck?)
    When do you plan to stop working?
    Which brand has a good dealership near you?
     
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  10. staceydude

    staceydude Road Train Member

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    LMAO, you may be thinking of yourself and have zero idea what motivates people.

    why would a High payment and someone else owning your truck motivate anyone?

    I do plan on retiring at 62ish... I have worked since I was 13 years old. Never been unemployed other than a furlough. I don’t sit around idle waiting for someone else to tell me to move. If that is you then keep yourself under a payment.

    Validation? Lmao. Move along dude.

     
  11. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    I would go pre-emission. But at the same time those trucks will not have a resale value eventually. The new age trucks and drivers are going automatic transmissions.



    Paying insurance once a year or 10 monthly payments, would only save me the $5.00 monthly process fee.

    I would buy a truck from an owner operator that is retiring NOT being forced to sell.

    Maintenance and repairs will cost a lot if you outsource all of it. If you don't have tools to do it yourself. Tools will cost a lot.

    At 54, I would keep doing what your doing. It sounds successful. It takes about 5 years to get that old trucks parts changed that are wore out.

    Then you will be near 60 and may feel like "slowing down". So all you might have done is spent your $70grand to keep yourself busy.

    Good luck
     
  12. staceydude

    staceydude Road Train Member

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    Every job you have ever had has been bought... if not with your money then with your time...

    Whatever happened to good ole put your boots on and work motivation? I must come from a different background than some of y’all. I have been so destitute I have sold blood to buy food for the family to having enough money to be able to live for a year without touching a #### thing and pay all my bills. I still get up every day and go to work.

    If y’all are motivated over a paying bills then have at it. I enjoy making money. I don’t enjoy paying a financial institution for that. Every dime I make that doesn’t get paid out to someone else feels pure and clean and that motivates me.

    Being able to retire at 62 if I wish doesn’t mean I don’t work today. It also doesn’t mean I will sit on my ### until I die. I am always doing something.

     
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