Should Truckers be allowed self defense?

I stated in another post that the very people that black people are looking to for leadership are the very ones setting policy. Bad cop on your street? He was placed there because he was bad. I know what you're saying, and I agree. I am trying to avoid politics, but BLM is a political agenda.

Alienate yourself
Destroy your family
Destroy your neighborhood
Destroy your own children
Destroy your name

Even if you took the cops out of the equation, NOTHING would change. But it's what we are supposed to focus on. "Racism" is the focus, so we can't see what we need to see.

 

Sure, summed up simply, communism. Give away your freedom to prosper, for false government security. Say what the communists tout, good comrade. Say anything against them, your falsely labeled a racist, a bigot, ostracized as an enemy of the State, slandered as an enemy of the collective sheeple, fired from your job, beaten by the mob, house and property defaced, stolen, or destroyed. Freedom of speech only applies to them.

Myself, along with most Americans are not racist. I've always advocated for equal rights for all. I will gladly stand against racism and injustice alongside my black, brown, or white brothers. I have no reason to feel "white guilt". Everything I have, has been earned through hard work and Gods grace. I've been given nothing, nor do I want to be given anything for free, particularly nothing that was obtained by the hard work of another.

Looking at the rioters and anarchists, utilizing the tragic Floyd incident to their advantage, what do I see, mostly young white adult children. Adult children raised without proper parenting, never hearing the word NO. Always given whatever they wanted or else, never disciplined, never taught morals or right from wrong, never taught from the Good Book, never taught Jesus's Sermon on the Mount. Taught their wrongdoing or disappointments are always someone else's fault, not theirs. Taught not love or compromise, but hatred for anyone not agreeing with them. Taught the ways of communism from most, if not all, of their college professors. Taught that they too are entitled to fruit from another's hard work. Taught that the end justifies the means, whatever it takes, whomever it hurts.

What's up next? Well, I'll predict that once the communist's are fully in power here, and have the votes in congress to do it, they'll work on amending our constitution. They'll start dismantling the 1st & 2nd amendments, under the guise of it's for the good of the country, of course.

No tin foil hat needed, just look around and see for yourself what's happening. Things will move rapidly once they know they're in full vote control. Like I've said previously, there are none so blind as those who will not see. One should always seek the truth, and truth can be found in the Good Book. We are all God's children, black, brown & white, and we all need to stand united. Truth is found in the light, never in darkness, deception, or hatred, and that's all I have to say about that....

 

ANTIFA without the masks.

 

Deflect all you want. To fix a problem, one has to fix the cause.
If someone sells heroine to your daughter. You can put her in rehab. But if she still wants it. She is gonna go buy more. If you get rid of the dealer. She might still want it. But if it's not for sale she cant get it.

 

Mmmmmm hmm. And your way is the only way. Because "your good book" is the real one. All the others are false. Any one who believes in another good book other than yours is a fool.
And remember Santa see you sleeping or awake. The tooth fairy is paying the Easter bunny off.

 

Kind of off topic, but just where did I say that my way is the only way? Also, I don't see where I said I force my belief unto you, nor did I say if someone believes in something else they're a fool. Furthermore, it's not my book. I didn't write it; I just chose to try and live by it.

To be clear, I'm secure in my beliefs. I was taught right from wrong, and I can spot wrong a mile away. Mock me if you choose too, I'm ok with that, no hatred here. Right now, in this country, you are free to believe what you choose to believe, remember that in the future...

 

Wow, the forks in the road on this thread are amazing!
I think we need to compare apple to apples. The rants regarding the character/skill/cleanliness of drivers really aren't to the point of this discussion. Anyone with a concealed carry permit of whatever initials you want to use must go through a background check. No where on the background check does it ask questions such as, "Do you pee in bottles or in the parking lot?" or "Do you make your bed everyday and take out the trash?"

I get the point that some people are of lower quality, but it's not a determining factor of their rights.

I would say that any driver capable of getting a concealed carry permit should be allowed to. Those people tend to be more responsible anyway.

I believe congress should pass reciprocity between all states and I don't think the trucking companies should impinge on a driver's 2A rights. Of course, we're always free to go work somewhere else. If they can't get any drivers, they'll change their policy.

Summary: 50 state reciprocity and allow licensed drivers to carry.

 

I added a couple of bold words, when people have tried to work within the system to effect change they are ostracized and destroyed. Just look at the two cops who filed whistle blower complaints against Ronald Watts - no longer cops, drummed out of the force. Advocate for justice that is not dependent on wealth and you are a communist. Point out that schools in minority neighborhoods receive less state and federal funding than they are supposed to under law while white school districts are fully funded and you are a race agitator or looking to get something for nothing. When Congress enacted the reform making cocaine and crack equivalent they explicitly said it was to end a racist law, but did they do anything to provide redress for those convicted under the racist law? Racial housing covenants were made illegal in 1948, yet were being enforced until 1975.

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Myself, along with most Americans are not racist. I've always advocated for equal rights for all. I will gladly stand against racism and injustice alongside my black, brown, or white brothers. I have no reason to feel "white guilt". Everything I have, has been earned through hard work and Gods grace. I've been given nothing, nor do I want to be given anything for free, particularly nothing that was obtained by the hard work of another.
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In 1848, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed, in which Mexico ceded all of the Southwest to the US for $15 Million. In reporting of the treaty the Whig Intelligencer stated "We take nothing by conquest - thank god". We paid for the land acquired, but would Mexico have sold it at all without US military action?

I will happily grant that Clausland, the individual, has not knowingly received anything that was not his due and if he were to be made aware that he personally was the benefit of malfeasance due to race, he would stand up and say "Forget this stuff".

Yet, in aggregate, he has been the beneficiary of a system based upon race. Until very recently, schools with predominantly white populations received more funding than minority schools - compare state funding for schools in Alexander County, IL to that of Union, Johnson, and Pulaski Counties. What you will find is despite similar demographics in terms of population size, economic status, etc Alexander County received less state funding than it's neighbors. The one major difference is the racial makeup. If you want an example outside of education, compare state and federal funding for Adams County, IL to Alexander County after the 1992 floods (I may be off by a year or two).

In Champaign, IL a black person between 18-35 is twice as likely to be stopped by the police for jaywalking as a white person 18-35. They are three times as likely to leave that stop with a citation.

Research has shown over and over again that with "identical" resumes when race is known, a white person is more likely to get an interview than a person of color. When race is not known, there is no statistical difference.

Why is there such resistance to gathering data about race in police interactions and the criminal justice system? If there was ANY data showing racial equality, don't you think Mark Levin and company would be trumpeting it at every opportunity?

While you may have no explicit reason to feel "white guilt", I do.

My grandfather was primary outside council for Evergreen Financial (later Evergreen Bank and Trust, later Southwest Financial) between 1950 and 1980. In that time he was an active participant in (entirely legal but completely amoral) actions that redistributed wealth from black people to white. For more on this google Chicago red lining land contracts. Depending on how far you read, you'll find his name (hint, it's on the fourth page on my results). This legal theft afforded my grandparents the ability to send their children to private schools, then college for all four and post grad for the two males. My dad's education and the connections he made thru my grandfather made it possible for him to buy a nice home in a nice suburb with a highly rated school system. When it came time for me to go to college, a couple of those connections eased my admittance and provided scholarship money. At the time, I thought I'd earned it, in retrospect I did nothing to deserve it.

One night in the summer between my junior and senior years in high school about 10 of us were hanging out around a fire pit on the backside of the railroad tracks behind an apartment complex. Just basically hanging out, but there was beer and cigarettes. A couple of cops appeared on top of the railroad tracks and did the "nobody move, keep your hand visible", etc. My friend Pat stood up, drained his beer and as the cops started down the embankment lit out into the woods. Both cops tried to chase, one fell and then scrambled after. The rest of us high tailed it the other direction. Pat was caught, and was released to his parents without being charged.

Spring break of senior year we "broke in" (i had, and still have, the keys) to the school pool and had a little pool party. We got caught by the janitor and high tailed it out the emergency exit. Despite clear proof of who did what, the only repercussion was "don't do it again" from the aquatics director.

My junior year of college, 3 ######## broke into our house and trashed it "as a prank" during Christmas break. Did over $10,000 in damage. It wasn't hard to trace it back to them, and the college/cops gave us two choices - we could accept restitution or press charges and pursue a civil suit. It was made clear to us that despite overwhelming evidence of their guilt neither the college (who owned the house) nor the cops had any interest in pursuing this, so it was either take the settlement or nothing.

Do you really think that in any of these three cases the perpetrators were black the outcome would have been different?

 

I don't disagree that racism has been used to distract us from meaningful issues - liberty, equality, fraternity.

The question is, do we want to end crime or arrest criminals?

Do we want to grow the economy of grow wealth?

Time and again we have shown with out actions that we want to arrest criminals and growth wealth, neither of which end crime or grow the economy.