Should Truckers be allowed self defense?

Yes, you will never end crime, especially in the philosophic sense. You are also right that "scaling some unnecessary laws back" is a good idea. Since 1995 what has happened to police budgets in contrast to the enforcement of 1) tax law and 2) wage theft?

 

No, you don’t want to end crime, because if you did, you wouldn’t have sent so many meaningful jobs abroad.

 

How the heck did this get derailed into a race baiting conversation? I don't remember the OP asking if only white truckers should be allowed to carry. Quit trying to hijack the forums as a platform for your personal political agendas!!!

 

So what you're saying is that capitalism is bad?

I know that's not what you're saying, but one of the basis of capitalism is efficiency, a second is maximization of profit. The third, and most overlooked, is social justice/living wage. Reading Marx and Engles what one finds is that this third point is what brings down a capitalistic society. So much emphasis is put on points one and two while ignoring the third results in massive inequality - a point that Adam Smith explicitly addresses.

Give me a magic wand in 1960 and I wouldn't have let the unions pull out of technical high schools when they integrated. I also wouldn't let tech programs be the dumping ground for ner'do'wells. Nor would I let the bail bonds industry prevent using ankle tracers which have been shown time and again to be more effective in getting the accused to show in court compared to bail/bond/rotting in jail. Nor would I let the tax prep industry block free filing (see Japan, Sweden, France, etc).

What should be the outcome for two brothers who intentionally underfunded their 3,000, company's pension fund, borrowed millions on the company name when they knew repayment was impossible all the while taking high six figure salaries and using company money to pay for their houses and vacations? Is the answer an SEC job for one and a cushy executive job for the other?

 

please see the second post

 

I'm a city kid. The powers that be ran all the industry out of the area. They say that they want to concentrate on "tourism." That means everyone is broke. When industry tried to come here, they ran them off. Had nothing to do with capitalism and everything. Jobs? Either you work in a motel, a tee shirt shop, a restaurant, or sell drugs.

 

So why is the 4th option even on the table? It's because the first 3 won't pay for rent on a crappy studio apartment.

If you can't afford to pay a living wage then you can't afford to be in business.

A while ago Google promoted a "news" story to me about a manufacturing company moving from near Midway Airport in Chicago to NW Indiana. The site that wrote the story promotes the idea that Indiana is better for business than Illinois in general and Chicago in specific. The bulk of the article was about Chicago taxes, what the article failed to mention is that the company was in a location that was truck unfriendly BEFORE the property next door got redeveloped and they lost what they had been using as an employee parking lot. The move had nothing to do with taxes or policy, it had to do with no longer getting to use space for free. The result is they went from having 6 dock doors to 2. I know this because we used to do a significant amount of business with that company, but stopped because too many of our "drivers" (I use the term loosely, very VERY loosely) couldn't even find the place and those that did tended to hit stuff trying to get into their remaining docks. Then add it the fact that they were occupying a space that was built in the 1920s, "renovated" in the 1980s and they couldn't use the top two floors due to code violations. Too often "government policies" are blamed for a company relocating when the fact is it's cheaper to build a new facility elsewhere than it is to refurbish and reequip their current location.

Or, in the case of the Union training facilities in Chicago, racism. When faced with the prospect of having to hire minority apprentices the unions decided to move their training facilities to locations inaccessible to public transportation. When both the city of Chicago and the State of Illinois offered sweetheart (read "free") deals on properties accessible by public transport, the unions declined. How do I know this? A couple years ago I had a union pipe fitter named Phil on my truck, who proudly detailed his work to keep his union free from lazy n*****s.

For what United States hospitals pay for homeless people self-injuring themselves to gain shelter we can house the entire long term homeless population with money to spare. If you add the money that police spend dealing with the homeless we can fund mental health care.

The old joke is the Lone Ranger and Tonto are facing a merciless horde of injuns, and the Lone Ranger goes "what will we do this time, Tonto". To which Tonto replies "What do you mean 'we', white man?".

Or in the words of Ben Franklin "Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are". If we looked at each situation with "what if the victim was my brother" AND "what if the accused was my brother" we would have a very different criminal justice system.

 

From a personal and professional view I would say yes... But then I look at the caliber of the large majority of truck drivers on the road today and I think... OH HELL NO!!! We sure as hell dont need all those idiots rolling around the country with loaded firearms!!!

 

I believe your 2nd amendment rights ( getting phased out, by the way) ..Shouldnt end when you enter a libtard state? JMO