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AB5. Will it be enforced? What do you think?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Regional, Jul 2, 2020.

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Jul 12, 2020 #51

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So you’re not going to say what regulations I’m not following by paying to use someone’s authority vs having my own? Please point out exactly what FMCSA regulation disallows leasing on to a motor carrier.

It seems like you want everyone to do it the way you did it even if it doesn’t make sense financially. You started out in this thread saying if everyone that owned a truck had to get authority then everyone could get a fair rate. Rates wouldn’t change because people would go to a two check system before getting authority. Then you start saying we’re skirting regulations yet can’t say exactly what regulations are being skirted. Then one post you’re talking about forming a corporation and getting a business license, neither of which are required by FMCSA to get operating authority. Then it’s back to your opinion that guys like me are skirting regulations. I’m not going to pay my $300 and then have to pay out the nose for insurance when my insurance is only about $6k a year now. That wouldn’t make much sense to me financially. So maybe don’t make accusations based on your opinion without an actual regulation to back it up.
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The AB5 law and Pro Act Bill are actual regulations

Regional, Jul 12, 2020

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Jul 12, 2020 #52

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Regional said: ↑

The AB5 law and Pro Act Bill are actual regulations
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She kept saying we should all have to follow the same FMCSA regulations, and we are, just with someone else’s DOT number on the truck.

And AB5 doesn’t concern me because I’m not in CA. The push for it to go nationwide will be fought by the ATA because their member companies can’t exist without their lease purchase programs.

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Jul 12, 2020 #53

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Long FLD said: ↑

She kept saying we should all have to follow the same FMCSA regulations, and we are, just with someone else’s DOT number on the truck.

And AB5 doesn’t concern me because I’m not in CA. The push for it to go nationwide will be fought by the ATA because their member companies can’t exist without their lease purchase programs.
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But you do live in the USA and the PRO ACT AFFECTS ALL

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Jul 12, 2020 #54

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Regional said: ↑

But you do live in the USA and the PRO ACT AFFECTS ALL
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And the ATA will battle that to the end. The profits that the megas make from lease purchase programs likely exceeds their actual trucking revenue. And if it does go nationwide then I’ll just get my authority.

My issue with the other poster is she kept saying being leased to carrier is skirting the FMCSA regulations and couldn’t say what regulations and was only giving her opinion.

Long FLD, Jul 12, 2020

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Trucking exempt from AB 5 until Supreme Court weighs in

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