New Freight tractor...?

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  1. Cat sdp

    Cat sdp . .

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    if you were to spec out a new tractor to pull a dry van at 80,000 lbs . What would you do..? Not interested in aero anything. Will be my retirement truck.I’m just planning on all options.....not sure how things will play out....

    What I have so far....


    W900L 255” or 260” wheelbase?

    585/2050 X15 performance

    18 speed manual

    3.25 or 3.55 super 40 rears ?

    11R22.5 tires

    13,xxx front

    46 primax ?

    72” studio high top

    Vit package


    Quite cab and arctic insulation package


    All the usual options...

    No lane departure or vorad type systems


    45” high fifth wheel


    Usage 13’6” high box trailer
    Freight hauling queen tractor. Tare Weight is an issue
     
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  3. dirthaller

    dirthaller Heavy Load Member

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    Which “Super 40’s”? DT 40-170 or DSH 40? I don’t like either because the DT 40-170 is 500# heavier and the DSH 40 is an odd ball to get parts for. 46 primaxx indicates DT 40-170. I’d get the smaller HP/torque engine to get DSP 40 rears for weight and parts availability.
    AG 400 or AG 400L for suspension. Not exactly sure of the ride height difference or weight but the AG 400L would be cheaper to maintain and has more suspension travel. The AG 400 “walks” better and you can run with suspension deflated for a few miles with a blown airbag. AG 400L is dead in the water with a blown airbag.
    3.36 and 3.42 is available between 3.55 and 3.25. You’ll have to research what speed/rpm is your “sweet spot”.
    ETA: AG 380 is an excellent light weight, cheap to maintain suspension. I’ve found no fault in the AG 380 unless you’re pulling a RGN and you need occasional > #40,000 of strength on your drive axles.
     
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  4. Brettj3876

    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

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    Tare weight an issue. Well that new truck will be heavy no matter what with polar bear saving equipment hanging off it. Something like a Hyundai van be lighter than a dane. Im 32.4-32.6 with a 53 hyd plate van
     
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    dirthaller Heavy Load Member

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    20 years ago, when I knew how to spec a w9, the way to spec a lighter studio was:
    22” tanks (to allow for 5/16” thick framerails instead of 3/8“) 255” wheelbase, AG380, DSP 40 rears. The 13,200 front shouldn’t make a noticeable difference in weight.
     
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    The MX is like 400 lbs lighter :p
     
  7. Brettj3876

    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

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    Or the X12 lol still like 1700 or 1750tq plenty for 80k
     
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    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

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    Moved plenty of frac pumps at 100k with the 425/1650 and I was impressed better than volvo d13 and dd15
     
  9. dclerici1

    dclerici1 Medium Load Member

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    If weights an issue, drop the primax. You don’t need that for a dry van.
     
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    Thank you, a breath of fresh air. I was hoping you wouldn't say the "F" or "V" words. Sounds great, personally, I'm sick of shifting, but don't want an automatic, I'd go with a simple 10 speed and the 3:55's. No need to "split" any gears these days, and costly to repair. You'll have the power for the hills, as long as you aren't a clutch abuser, and since you aren't going trail blazing, a 10 speed should be just fine. Empty weight might be an issue, but skimping on tractor options, doesn't save much. Good luck:thumbup:
     
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  11. dirthaller

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    Why on earth would a self respecting owner operator NOT get a 13 or 18? They add very little weight and they are EVERY bit as dependable (unless you’re a real ####ty driver or you’re stuck in the 1980’s)!
     
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