No IRP/IFTA, under 26,001 State specific permits

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  1. Xray4

    Xray4 Light Load Member

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    That's absolutely the case. Unfortunately it's the same examiner today. We'll see what happens.
     
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  3. Lite bug

    Lite bug Road Train Member

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    I know you just getting started so looking back, I had no idea what market I would be servicing. Nothing should be ruled out. Find a market originating close to you and build from there. I have seen some guys on here who have started out within the last couple of years and seem to be doing quite well. They ask questions and now are answering people’s concerns with experience. Some things you just luck into recognizing them speeds up your success.
     
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  4. Lite bug

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    Yelp
     
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  5. clausland

    clausland Road Train Member

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    We got a few like that up here, especially in the DMV offices. Unfortunately, there's folks like that everywhere, and it's gettin worse all the time. Wait till you get out here with the DOT ones like that.
     
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  6. Xray4

    Xray4 Light Load Member

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    I passed! Finally. Missed nothing, at least he didn't mention anything. I had him standing in the 110 heat for two hours for my pre trip to make sure I didn't miss anything. I think maybe he just wanted it to be over :) jumped from class B to class A, and it's good.

    Next, less than great news. I went for my first scale, full fuel (138 gallons), three tarps, 4 chains and binders, 20 30' straps, and some miscellaneous tools. I couldn't believe the numbers... Grossed at 17940.... Far more than the 16000 I estimated. This is with a 2017 f350 SRW, and 35' diamond c hydro dove that supposedly weighs 7780lb. I can't imagine that this truck is 10k..

    Plan to get reweighed at a different scale in the morning to double check.

    What do you guys think? Numbers look appropriate for these new Fords? IMG_20200901_154547_01.jpg
     
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  7. 24kHotshot

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    First of all congratulations on your class A!

    Second of all, yea that looks about right. You are carrying 966 lbs of just fuel. My trailer says it weighs 7k on the title and it actually scales in at 8k.
    Just wanted to mention that your axles are already close to max weight. 2017 F350 SRW front axle rating is 5,250 for 2x4 and 5,600 for 4x4. Your rear axle is rated for 6,340 lbs. About 20-25% of the weight on the trailer will shift to your rear axle and overload you.
    I'd be worried your rear tires won't handle that weight very well.

    You either have to get yourself a dually or a single axle semi or switch to a lighter trailer.
    I am assuming you have an aftermarket addittional fuel tank that is holding 90 gallons (630 lbs), I'd take it off to get that weight off the rear axle. Should bring it down to about 5,400.
    With a lighter trailer and that fuel tank taken off you should be able to drop at least 2k lbs off your empty truck weight.

    I ran into the same issue when I started. I wanted to run non cdl also but when I bought my truck and scaled it I realized that would not be possible to carry 3 cars and stay under 26k, so I ran and got my cdl.
     
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  8. clausland

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    Drop the trailer and just weigh the truck, recouple and weigh the whole setup, then you'll have the numbers for each. That amount of fuel's adding almost 1,000# to your weight.

    Personally, for OTR work I wouldn't run anything less than a dually with the trailer you have. I do know a fellow who runs a diesel SRW 350 and pulls a PJ 28' tilt deck with dual single wheel axles (14k?). He seems to have no problems, but he runs mostly light stuff.

    BTW, those Diamond C's are nice trailers. Here's a shot of our C70 (28k GVWR) that I might use to pull a 40' tandem goose next spring.
    C70 11.JPG
     
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  9. Brandonpdx

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    I don’t think that SRW is going to be enough rear axle once you put any freight on it. Dually rears are usually good for around 10,000. Single rear has to be less. I’d look at an F-450 pickup ir RAM 3500 if you want to stay with the small trucks. They come with 48 or 50 gallon tanks stock which is good enough to get started. Not a fancy model with all the toys on it either. It’s just a work rig.
     
  10. Xray4

    Xray4 Light Load Member

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    Thank you. I was tempted to look at a 99 FL70 single, four door the other day... Might be the route to take, I just need to hit the road first for a few months before committing even more cash to this new endeavor.

    So my steer and drive figures are below, I still have about 1200lb left on the drive, and only 900 left on steer. IMG_20200717_083602.jpg

    From vin sticker :
    Front GAWR: 5600 LB
    Rear GAWR: 7230 LB
     
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    I'll be doing just that this morning
     
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