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Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by MACK E-6, Dec 11, 2017.

  1. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    I will disagree with this statement. “whenever it is easier for the driver.” This is YOUR interpretation, not what the regulation says.
     
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  3. PoleCrusher

    PoleCrusher Road Train Member

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    Doesn't look like it. You need 2 points of securement within the first 10 feet, and belly straps don't count. It looks like that second strap is farther back than 10'.
     
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  4. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

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    My coworker got a "warning" about that. It's not true. I'd be super pissed at getting points over a law that doesn't exist. It's 1 for every 10' plus 1 if not blocked at the front. There's nothing that says first 10' needs 2 straps.
     
  5. PoleCrusher

    PoleCrusher Road Train Member

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    So did your coworker contest the violation?
     
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  6. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

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    The company is busy with a lot of tickets to contest. They said they've got bigger fish to fry right now. And warnings are the worst as you still get points, but you can't contest them in court.
     
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  7. PoleCrusher

    PoleCrusher Road Train Member

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    You can contest an inspection violation, even if it's a warning. All those points matter, no such thing as too small to fight, if the violation is actually in error, it should be contested, regardless.

    The fact that your company "is busy with a lot of tickets...", speaks volumes.
     
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  8. LoneCowboy

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    What @PoleCrusher crusher said, you need another one at the front over the top of the top layer. Your penalty strap. (because it's not blocked at the front).

    and TBH how long are the pipes? it's one for every 10' of widget length plus any portion thereof. So 42 foot long requires 5 straps (plus the penalty strap) for a total of 6. (honestly 40' 1" requires 5 plus the penalty strap), they can measure depending on their mood, so you should measure too)
     
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  9. Wasted Thyme

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    @D.Tibbitt don't forget to post them pics here. :p
     
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  10. D.Tibbitt

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    The tug of shame :( ...

    "yeah go blindside back, up into that entrance , and u can get turned around there. i see trucks do it all the time" ...

    Well , i had to get the forks to pull me out, then i made a 2nd attempt and wasnt enough room. Tried a 3rd time, still cant make it... so i had him lift up the back of my trailer while i was backing up and we were able to get turned around by doing that.....

    I told the forklift guy that the boss man told me " he sees trucks do this all the time" ...

    forklift guy laughed and said "yeah and guess who gets to pull u guys out of the ditch all the time, it sure as hell aint him ! " :D IMG_20200909_0910131.jpg IMG_20200909_0912182.jpg
     

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  11. kylefitzy

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    ^what he said. Here’s the actual registration with the relevant section in bold.
    393.110 What else do I have to do to determine the minimum number of tiedowns?
    (a) When tiedowns are used as part of a cargo securement system, the minimum number of tiedowns required to secure an article or group of articles against movement depends on the length of the article(s) being secured, and the requirements of paragraphs (b) and (c) of this section. These requirements are in addition to the rules under §393.106.

    (b) When an article is not blocked or positioned to prevent movement in the forward direction by a headerboard, bulkhead, other cargo that is positioned to prevent movement, or other appropriate blocking devices, it must be secured by at least:

    (1) One tiedown for articles 5 feet (1.52 meters) or less in length, and 1,100 pounds (500 kg) or less in weight;

    (2) Two tiedowns if the article is:

    (i) 5 feet (1.52 meters) or less in length and more than 1,100 pounds (500 kg) in weight; or

    (ii) Longer than 5 feet (1.52 meters) but less than or equal to 10 feet (3.04 meters) in length, irrespective of the weight.

    (3) Two tiedowns if the article is longer than 10 feet (3.04 meters), and one additional tiedown for every 10 feet (3.04 meters) of article length, or fraction thereof, beyond the first 10 feet (3.04 meters) of length.

    (c) If an individual article is blocked, braced, or immobilized to prevent movement in the forward direction by a headerboard, bulkhead, other articles which are adequately secured or by an appropriate blocking or immobilization method, it must be secured by at least one tiedown for every 3.04 meters (10 feet) of article length, or fraction thereof.[\b]
     
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