I'm beginning to understand the frustration

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by TNSquire, Sep 14, 2020.

  1. TNSquire

    TNSquire Medium Load Member

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    Everyone gives their best, and I do help others best I'm able. We have one lady in class that's requested she only go out driving with me.
    Make no mistake, I understand that everyone learns at different rates, and certain tasks are more difficult than others for each individual.
    My frustration is that I cannot help them.
    I cannot explain it in a fashion that they comprehend.
    I don't know how to fix the situation.
    That aggravates the chocolate out of me.
    I want them to succeed, I want them to fly, nail their goals every time.
    If my penance is having to slip in between a pair of long hood trucks at 3am in the pitch dark, I'll pay that gladly. And I'll pull up as many times as I have to so I don't scuff either.
     
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  3. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    Don't worry about everyone else. Your job is to make sure YOU don't hit anything. When I was new I didn't help anyone, I was trying to learn the ropes myself.
     
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  4. ParochialNimrod

    ParochialNimrod Bobtail Member

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    I've had a lot of different careers in my life and one constant between them is no one can stand new people like the OP that think they have it all figured out and are better than everyone on day one. These people always end up being problems and the people they put down end up being the solid bet.

    Look at how unaware you are, you are making a post complaining about people trying to learn how to back a truck.. in school.. where they are supposed to learn. No matter what industry or career you go into you will always annoy the living #### out of anyone that can actually help or train you by acting the way you are with your post.

    Just be quite, if you are actually good at what you are doing people will notice. If you have to actually tell people how good you are, you almost certainly aren't very good. With safety sensitive jobs, you will want experienced people helping you out as much as possible before you are cut loose on your own.
     
  5. TNSquire

    TNSquire Medium Load Member

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    Easy there tail gunner.... You missed the whole of the discussion and cut loose too soon.
    You missed where I indicated my frustrations in being unable to help them.
    You missed where I mentioned that I'm not in any way an expert in such things.
    Obviously, I have a ways to go myself, as I indicated a few times.
    I help where I'm able.
    I've had most of them ride with me while backin , and talking my way through what I was doing and why, trying like hell to help them see through my eyes.
    It's the best I've got at the moment.
    Yes, I lean on others more experienced.
    I teach where I can, learn where I cannot teach, per se.
    I can't say I'd ask anyone to back for me, but I would ask for guidance and ideas to bolster success.
    I don't learn if you do it for me.
    Just as they don't learn if they don't do it.
    But, doing the exact same thing, time after time, getting the same result, doesn't help them.
    They can't grow without making a shift in their decision proces .
    How can I present it to them to help them? I'm all ears for ideas.
     
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  6. ParochialNimrod

    ParochialNimrod Bobtail Member

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    You made a thread complaining about people having difficulties learning to back. You just don't get it. In my experience you are going to most likely miss out on better training due to your attitude.
     
  7. tarmadilo

    tarmadilo Road Train Member

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    I just re-read the original post, and I do think you’re getting gang-tackled a little more than you deserve. Your actual observations pretty much match what I saw in my class two years ago.

    Backing a trailer is definitely a skill that comes much easier to some folks than others, and I suspect that your class is like mine, several students taking turn practicing, spending much more time watching and waiting their turn than actually operating the truck. As I mentioned in an earlier reply, I wasn’t much good after taking the class, though I was very good at the specific maneuvers required to pass the test. It took an intense day alone in a truck practicing over and over with a trailer in our yard before I actually got competent enough to go out into the world solo...
     
  8. zaroba

    zaroba Heavy Load Member

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    Keep in mind that everybody has different strengths and weaknesses when it comes to learning to drive a semi.

    Backing was easy for me CDL school, coming from warehouses I was used to judging distances and angles from far away due to putting pallets in high racks and removing them. Sticking the trailer in the spot wasn't much different from putting a 5ft 8in pallet in a 6ft hole 40ft in the air. Turning, judging distances from a distance, keeping alert for pedestrians and other equipment in a small area. My issue was going forward. Shifting was a complete nightmare and I stalled the engine tons of times, sometimes multiple times at the same intersection when practicing on the road. And it was the same for another former forklift driver. Conversely, other students couldn't back at all but quickly got the hang of shifting.
     
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  9. TNSquire

    TNSquire Medium Load Member

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    No, I expressed frustration with being unable to help others, and more frustration with others that refuse to listen to guidance from others who've been there done that.
    One guy thinks it's funny when he jacks the trailer into left field, then gives pushback then the instructor offers suggestions to get himself out of it.
    There is a Darwin element to this profession.
    Will I miss out on things? Of course.
    I can't absorb everything immediately.
    Some things I'm unable to digest because I'm unprepared, not yet at that level to make use of the knowledge, etc.
    It's almost like watching a wreck happen before your eyes.
    You want to do something, you want to prevent it from happening, but you're helpless to the situation and can only watch it unfold.
    Then clean up the mess and hope nobody dies in the process.
     
  10. Hazmat Cat

    Hazmat Cat Medium Load Member

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    Lol this thread is funny.
     
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  11. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Sounds a lot like how I operate.
     
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