Armchair lawyers of TTR...

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by God prefers Diesels, Sep 23, 2020.

  1. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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  3. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    Works both ways.

    Other than being slimy, and trying to get around a ruling, it doesn't bother me. IDGAF how much they make, as long as I make my nut. I expect there's honest brokers out there, and I'll find them eventually.
     
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  4. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    So, in your mind what does an honest broker look like? Not physically either ;-)
     
  5. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say sometimes it's hard to understand in writing but there are good brokers out there.

    But if you thinking you're going to find brokers that are not going to ask you to waive your right and they're going to tell you what they're making that's not going to happen.

    And again I may not be understanding you but if that's what you're saying I don't know that you'll ever find a broker that does not have that in his contract.
     
  6. TheLoadOut

    TheLoadOut Road Train Member

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    Just how does one get off demanding you waive what is an actual regulation? Which by definition says:
    Regulation: a rule or directive made and maintained by an authority.
    In this case the FMCSA would be the authority that created this regulation. So can I waive 395.15? Automatic onboard recording devices, hey, I'm waving it, whatcha gonna do about it? That's basically what the brokers are saying.

    So hear is what I suggest, if you've been burned by a broker that had that clause in their contract, call them and ask to see all their records on that load pertaining to that regulation, it's not like you're going to do business with them again anyway, and when they say you signed such and such, just say you don't care what I signed, the regs say you have to show me upon my request, and either you show me, or I will let the regulating authority know that you took away and refused my ability to find out information that I am allowed to view.

     
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  7. Roger.B1240

    Roger.B1240 Bobtail Member

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    Brokers are part of the system. You can chose to use them to get you out of a hole and still sell your service direct to the customer as long as you have a permit to be a logistical agent on behalf of your trucking company. Then you can work two jobs. Brokering freight and transporting loads. Time is money in this situation, do you have the time to be your own broker?

    Look at the broker side, even though they are legally accountable for maintenance of records it is not desirable to give out trade secrets to you because then you could steal their accounts with the knowledge they have on the rates and contacts in a relationship with a small sender.

    Plus, Brokers are protected by Non Disclosure Agreements. There is no loophole that the carrier can wiggle around the contract between two parties or more that specifically details the terms of agreement.

    The old saying is cut out the middleman and go direct if you want a better price. However, that means you have to be able to service the clients needs which is putting you in a position that make you less flexible as an independent, therefore meaning you may find you are brokering loads to others to keep the clients from losing interest in your service.

    long story short....it is what it is to be small and independent verses being a national freight forwarding logistics provider.
     
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  8. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    Honest and up front with the driver. No hidden stuff, and not trying to get rich off of every single load.

    That's what I'm saying. There's good brokers out there. As long as you have some, then 371.3 doesn't matter. As I said before, I don't care how much the broker makes. If my expenses are a dollar a mile, and I make two dollars a mile on the trip, I don't expect a broker to complain that I profited a dollar a mile. Just like I don't care if they make a grand on that load. Good for them. You don't build up that little black book of contacts overnight. Like the mechanic that's been turning wrenches for forty years, and charges you $600 for four hours of work. You aren't just paying for the four hours. You're also paying for the forty years of experience.
     
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  9. Doealex

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    I've seen forty year brokerages, trucking companies, shippers go puff overnight. Times are changing; internet load boards & historically low interest rates create new winners and losers in these times. If it costs extra $500.000 for brokers to comply with this "new" regulation maybe they shouldn't sit on their loads trying to maximize their profits, and instead use their personnel more rationally.
     
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  10. PPDCT

    PPDCT Road Train Member

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    I mean, I'm 6'2", Bald, and have a pretty sweet beer gut. Dad bod, or something like that.

    Oh, you said *not* physically.
     
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  11. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    This guy right here: @PPDCT I don't know him, but I've read a lot of his posts. Unless he's just good at faking it, he seems like the model broker.
     
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