OK to leave trailer brake applied without a trailer?

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  1. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    You can't always trust the trailer brakes to hold 80,000 pounds by themselves. It even says on the red button Not for Parking. I would still put some chocks and dolly down. Plus you can't trust that someone won't crawl under and back your trailer brakes off.
     
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  3. mathematrucker

    mathematrucker Medium Load Member

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    You raise good points but I think it depends on the circumstances. On a dry flat surface (paved or not) the trailer brakes must surely be enough regardless of the weight. On any kind of a hill though, especially with a heavy load, it's worth adding chocks/dollies, but with the caveat that someone could easily take your chocks (especially the nice ones I have) or crank the dollies back up. Crawling under a trailer to back the brakes off sounds hard. Seems to me someone looking for mischief would choose something much easier that has more impact.
     
  4. AModelCat

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    Good luck backing off the brakes if they're set.
     
  5. mathematrucker

    mathematrucker Medium Load Member

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    I don't own the truck so that's not an option in this case, but I like the idea.
     
  6. Cattleman84

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    All the electrical do-hickies in the world wont help when the entire system is pneumatic over mechanical...
     
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  7. mathematrucker

    mathematrucker Medium Load Member

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    The brake system is pneumatic but the engine shutdown probably depends on an elaborate collection of electronic sensors that monitor the current state of the engine, dash switches, etc. (but this probably also makes the wiring idea useless).
     
  8. Cattleman84

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    Ok I see what you were getting at now... Trick the computer by bypassing the sensor... In theory that should work, but with as advanced as these systems are today its probably more complex than just bypassing the sensor.

    But still a good idea.
     
  9. spsauerland

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    When we ran idle shutdown timer on newer T800's, all the guys had to do to bypass it was unplug the park brake switch. The light blinked all the time, but shutdown never occurred.
     
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  10. Hulld

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    Locking up the trailer brakes would work unless you happen to have a trailer not equipped with maxi brake Spring brakes and your trailer air leaks down during the night.
    If you had this type trailer and the air leaks off your rolling away.
    In my opinion the toggle switch method that @spsauerland gave you to fool the computer in to thinking “the brakes aren’t set when they actually are” is the cleanest, easiest and by far the safest way to achieve the result you want.
     
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  11. spsauerland

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    Fooling outside air temp works on some too. Need truck specifics.
     
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