Are you delivering to cities that have riots?

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  1. striker

    striker Road Train Member

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    Going back to my comment, it's an entire overall societal thing. 90%? I suspect that might be high, but not sure. But, again let's look at the societal angles of it. If you've just spent five years in prison, when you get out and have nothing to return to but a potential life of crime, then that's what you know.

    As part of the societal discussion, let's look at the black on black crime/killings in Chicago, officials in Chicago, activists will scream about something must be done, ok, let's do something, let's increase the number of cops in the area, let's take the gloves off and let them do their job to control the problem. No, wait, you can't do that, that's racist, that's wrong. Ok, then what should we do?
     
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  3. Qbf594

    Qbf594 Road Train Member

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    as far as mass shootings, this is not factual (predominantly blue state) if 'blue state means places with 'liberal' or 'progressive' or 'restrictive gun rights'
    see link, British Journal of Medicine.
    State gun laws, gun ownership, and mass shootings in the US: cross sectional time series
     
  4. User666

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    They should start culturally. When everything you have revolves around glorifying material possessions, drug dealing, violence, sex, demeaning family values and generally applauding living a morally bankrupt life this is the result. I was at black talent show for kids about a year ago. Everyone cussed like sailors and the background music being played the entire time I was there was either gangster rap with nauseating lyrics demeaning women and shooting people over drugs and money or woo woo woo baby baby music with graphic sexual lyrics. None of this is appropriate material for a children's event IMO. Add victim mentality to this and you have a recipe for routine soul crushing culture failure on the modern day plantation.
     
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  5. Qbf594

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    that's an interesting idea, I'll try to look into that if I can get some time. The first thing that comes to mind is that retiring on disability in this country is likely a very different reality than in other countries, and both the process of going into that category, as well as the lifestyle thereafter, might be less desirable in the US vs the UK. I've read where the training is usually much longer (avg 3 years I read somewhere) elsewhere, suggesting that the national attitude toward the job MIGHT be more concerned with the officers health and good outcomes, which MIGHT lead to less catastrophic injury being enough to count as disabled.
    It would be interesting if you found data on the criteria for disability in those countries.
     
  6. Dino soar

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    This is the problem with all of this.

    You can't listen to fake news.

    I went through about 10 articles that the headline and the first sentence was Brianna Taylor was killed during a no-knock warrant.

    Don't fall into the Trap of following the propaganda.

    And first of all as far as everything else goes Brianna Taylor was involved with those drug dealers. They had at least one car in her name they had cell phones in her name when they were in jail there were conversations back and forth with her and even one of them saying that she's holding the money.

    The police had every evidence and every right to execute a search warrant on that apartment.

    The police announced themselves even though they legally did not have to.

    They come into the apartment with bullets flying at them.

    They returned fire which I'm sure you think if someone shot at you you would calmly think about it and wonder if it's Racial before you pulled your gun right?

    So they are fired upon and they returned fire and she's caught in the crossfire.

    Is it a tragedy, yes.

    Did they have every right to be there and do what they were supposed to do? Absolutely.

    Now one officer was out on the Terrace and he shot into the apartment in a way that endangered other people. And he was in trouble for doing that.

    I love when people don't know the facts of the case but they jump to conclusions.

    Here's a news flash. Crime scenes are about facts not jumping to conclusions.

    This is why there are courts in our country that preside over these things.

    Mob rule, accusations, and uninformed opinions are not courtrooms in the United States of America, nor should they be.
     
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    The real tragedy here is that we're allowing no knock warrants to take place.
     
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    Of course they said that because they all hate cops too, just like you.
     
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  10. striker

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    Actually, it's a combination of factors, officers in UK are more likely to be injured because they are not as easily able to defend themselves. There is an article today about a gun importation ring broken up in the UK, as mentioned in the article, while gun crime is low, they have had 46,000 stabbings in 2019, the first time in at least 50 yrs, a UK cop was killed by someone with a gun.

    I'll make it easy, on this part. per UK Gov. report, in '18/'19 there were over 30,000 assaults on police officers in England/Wales, 11,000 resulted in injury. The number of assaults on police had been on the decline from '06, however has been on a continual uptrend since '15. In 2018, there was an average of 28 attacks per day on British cops. BTW, a little buried story, during BLM protests in June, 27 British cops were injured, a few quite severely.

    There is also a societal difference as well, I've run across a few articles that the number of armed British cops is on the rise as overall violent crime has been on the rise, particularly acts of terrorist extremism. Whereas, most criminals, and society as a whole, in the UK is more polite than in the US. I have a few friends that live in the UK and a couple who have lived there and returned to the US. A consensus, they don't feel as threatened as a whole in the UK as they do in the US, while there are areas that are high risk, there are more areas that they could travel that don't feel as risky. One friend and his wife, both worked for Honeywell Europe and Honeywell US, they have lived in Germany, Switzerland, England, France and are have been back in the states about 5 yrs. The overwhelming comment from them, Switzerland was the safest of all the places they lived, whereas France was the most dangerous, overall, but, in the 4 yrs they lived in England, they knew more people who had been the victims of "personal crime" muggings, purse snatches, etc.. Whereas in France, being the target of a random beating was the norm in some areas, and the wife would not under any circumstances go out alone at night.
     
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    I previously felt inclined to read and consider the posts you made. While we are of differing backgrounds and attitudes I always approachedyour posts as being a fairly well thought out window into another valid view. That insight into your world view kinda wrecked it for me.

    And seriously, have you never heard of the British Journal of Medicine? It's kind of a big deal. Well respected by people who value science with integrity.
    SMH.
     
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