Did freightliner intentionally set out to make a crappy automatic transmission?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by ravaughn, May 9, 2017.

  1. basketcase64

    basketcase64 Light Load Member

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  3. Lysdexis

    Lysdexis Road Train Member

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    The new paccar 12 speed is nice, creeps right along forward and back with no input from the throttle like that horrid Eaton 10 speed used to.
     
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  4. basketcase64

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    The volvo ishift in my 15 and 17 were years ahead of this DT12 . With the performance/manual option and no training wheels or blocked out features , ishift is Much more predictable. Far more easy to back in tight holes compared to freightliner creepy or rocket launch mode .
    This test truck is a total failure and trust me.. I am not a big fan of the wobbling gobblin Volvos with their huge A pillers and mirrors blocking the traffic and power steering feedback reminiscent of a wore out 1972 LTD.
    Yeah freightliner handles like a sports car compared to bouncing , leaning over or rocking around like the cab of a Volvo 780 . ..
    I dont miss riding in a cab balancing on beach balls ...
    Oh but I'm sure I'll get flamed because some veteran of 2-3 years thinks it's the best thing ever.
    Yeah , I know you millenials like every SAFTEY ""God forbid I address an overkill of SAFETY and be deamed an anti American "" or gadget and the latest crap suspensions or power steering so it feels like your moms Taurus or dodge neon. But in the end , the tons of
    unnecessary technology crammed into these overrated trucks are doing you a huge disservice. But , I guess in 10 years when they are Autonomous they wont even have a driver to gripe about them...
     
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  5. Omega1

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    It's going into auto Regen...Let it do it...it will clear up on its own and go back to a normal idle in about 20 minutes
     
  6. ragtopjr

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    Mine is also set up with ECONO/Manual
    Mine does pretty much all the same things as the OP's does.
    I can live with it taking forever to get to speed, the skip shifts, and can even live with it going into ECOAST while set up at the right speed to run the Engine Brakes down the mountain (when its dry), and having to use the Brakes to get it back to a speed where the EB will hold it.....
    Last night I was driving on roads which were rained(froze) on prior to the snowfall and was getting pretty treacherous.
    I have never had serious concerns on poor roads like this as I had always had control of the power I was putting to the ground...
    With this set up as soon as I take my foot off the gas for a second it goes into ECOAST, so instead of being in control by having the engine dragging it down (No EB), it starts coasting, and the few times I was on a downhill started picking up speed necessitating the use of the brakes to get it back under control....
    My simple rule for driving on Ice has always been "No sudden movements, Smooth and steady" When this #### thing kicks out of gear into neutral I believe it is a serious safety hazard.
    Do you have a solution for this issue?
    Thanks in advance.
    P.S. I am from Canada, so every load I take I will be going from crap weather to good, and then back to crap...
    P.S.S. And no I am not a new driver, just a driver who has always been able to control whether his truck was in gear or not!
     
  7. jason6541

    jason6541 Road Train Member

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    Freightliner trucks website has training videos for drivers. Lighten up on throttle and quit driving it like, it’s a wanna be race car and they shift fine.

    I will keep my 18 though
     
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  8. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    Don't worry about it. They don't know how much a company can reprogram the truck and mess it up.

    If it drove like Freightliner said it should you wouldn't be here asking why it's so messed up. ;)
     
  9. Brandt

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    Just put lite steady pressure on the brakes and the transmission will not Ecoast. Use all the brakes to slow down. Turn off the engine brake you don't need it on slippery roads.
     
  10. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    It should not be going into Ecoast when you set it up to go downhill on dry roads. It has a special Descent Mode you can activate or basically do the same thing manually. It should not ECoast at all.

    To activate Descent Mode. First you turn on Stage 1 engine brake. Then slow the truck to any speed you want using the regular foot pedal brakes. Once you slow down to the speed you want. Take foot off brake pedal and push the SET cruise control button. This will lock the truck to the speed your going. The engine and transmission will now work together to hold that speed.
     
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