We've all ran into clueless drivers that we've wondered how in the world they've made it this far in life.
How many of these rocket scientists will loose their yob and not even know about it until its too late?
CSA 2010: How will the Driver Rating System affect you?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Yatista, Oct 18, 2009.
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Other than the pretty pictures that PDF doesn't give any useful information. I'm not jonesing on you, but rather at the CVSA and the gooberment screwups in general. -
The same logic applies in a criminal case. If you served your time for, let's say, bank robbery, and you were released , that's it! You paid your debt to society and the punishment is over.
This CSA 2010 IS GOING TO PUT DRIVERS IN DOUBLE JEOPARDY for offenses they already paid their fines and the case is now closed!
While I agree with you wholeheartedly, there is a small percentage of drivers that dont deserve to be amongst us professionals b/c they are "habitual offenders" . Those people will hang themselves without going into the past 3 years, it just might take a little longer.
BTW, no one has answered the question I posed earlier in this thread. How is a 7 pt violation, for example, going to affect MY safety rating? How many points can a driver lose before being declared "marginal" and "unfit"??? -
TruckerDave, I did answer your question in my last post. FMCSA has not yet determined and/or published the point level to be marginal or unfit. As I said in the previous post, it appears they will grade on a curve and set the standard based on how many drivers have how many points. He, or a % group, that has the most points wil be rated unfit. Of all the drivers on the road where do you think you rate, near the top, near the bottom, or somwhere in the middle. Your premise and example for double jeapordy are not well founded. Your record has been affecting your ability to work for a long time via DAC and MVR. This only consolidates those records and provides you with access and a method to appeal and correct errors. As far as your bank robber is concerned, I think that you will find, if you ask them, that all convicted felons feel they are punished long after release from prison by potential employers.
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as to double jeopardy: the bank robber may FEEL that he is still being punished, it is not the gov't punishing him. He wont be thrown back in prison for the same offense. But the driver who paid his fine for speeding 3 years ago may find himself out of a job when this goes thru. But unlike DAC, which is a private company, this will be a label given to you by the gov't . Not all companies use DAC, but ALL companies will be using this gov't label.
as to the appeal process: do you really think we will find it easy to appeal a rating or more likely, just like everything else in gov't, it will be a real PITA???
on a sidenote: Since we are forced to share the road with UNPROFESSIONAL drivers, by that I mean 4 wheelers, that is the reason we are held to a "higher standard". I think that logic is faulty. If driving is truly a priviledge, then ANYONE WHO DRIVES OUGHT TO BE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARDS!
I also believe that politicians who SERVE this country (they dont lead, generals lead. Politicians serve their community) should be held to the same standards as our military servicemembers! (Wouldnt it be great if we could give some of these crooked politicians a Bad Conduct Discharge or a Dishonorable Discharge???)
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It's at times like this, sitting here, waiting for a correct load, hooked up to another junky trailer, working for a company that while it prides itself as being your hometown national carrier, with that funky-fresh family feeling, which amounts to nothing more than lies, or that you'll be home weekly, more lies, or that they even care about you, another surprise, lie. I start to wonder, is fast food really that bad?
Everybody has that American Beauty breakdown day I think. -
Heres a scenario. You are dispatched to a drop and hook in the middle of nowhere. You get there with 8 hours left to drive, and it is 7.5 to your destination. This is a hot load, you have been sitting for a day wating for a load, no miles this week, bills at home late. You get there and find a slick tire, a couple of clearance lights out, and brake shoes on one axle that look to be right on the point of being too thin. What do you do?
Call night dispatch, they say go, this is a big customer, they are out of what you are hauling, go now, or go home. You are informed to pick up a couple lights and replace them yourself, and the rest can be looked at later. If the tire is not flat, get rolling. Do you take a stand or not? This job, and every other job you will not be able to get because of your messed up DAC, which is that way because you refused to pull this load, is what you're faced with.
Don't talk about STAA, OSHA, DOT, Lawyers. None of them will help you. You are a tiny number in a giant sea of numbers. You will do things you should not, whether you like it or not, or you will be out of work. That's the truth. You don't, and won't, do this all the time, unless you choose to, but it will happen.
It's easy to say what you will and won't do before you get into this mess called OTR trucking. Reality is much different.jtrnr1951, outerspacehillbilly, photolurp2 and 3 others Thank this. -
Refuse to run a load because of a unsafe truck? and somehow that's MY problem? Now if you were doing your job...you would have made an issue about a tire well before it became bald, they don't go bald overnight and any proper Pre-Trip, enroute or Post trip would have discovered that...same thing about the brake shoes.
Using the Quallcomm to make a 'paper trail' should put that company on notice that you are covering your butt. -
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Oh yes, that picture exists !!!!!!!
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