Uncoupling order, lowering landing gear and air bag suspension?

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  1. Flankenfurter

    Flankenfurter Light Load Member

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    I'm just starting school. Wondered if I could get some help understanding "uncoupling."

    Let's say I'm fully loaded, backed into the dock, and ready to uncouple my 53' dry van -- company driver, if that matters.

    I'm trying to put together a sort of checklist. What's your order for uncoupling a drop at a dock?

    My thought:
    1. Check in at guard shack or receiving.
    2. Move tandems if instructed. Or always?
    3. Once finally aligned to the dock, pat self on back. Pull Tractor/Trailer Brakes.
    4. Chock back axle trailer wheel. What if one is not available? Find one?
    5. Lower landing gear.
      • Question here is, how far? My thinking would be to lower it all the way and then some. I've seen one or two on YouTube leaving a gap (RWD).
      • Leave the lowering arm dangling or put it back in the holder when you leave it? Seen a few leave it dangling. They say it's easier for the yard "jockies."
    6. Unlock Fifth Wheel pin.
      • Is this out of order? Should the lines be disconnected first for some reason? Just seems to flow better like this (landing gear, pull 5th wheel handle, lines, get in truck.)
    7. Disconnect air/electric and secure in dummy couplers.
      • I also see them strapped to catwalks. How are they protected from getting water inside?
    8. Get in cab and lower suspension air bags.
      • Do all trucks now have this? I think this also helps with scraping all the grease off the fifth wheel.
      • Do you guys carry extra grease or scrape some off the apron and put it back on the plate?
    9. Pull out until trailer is unlocked but supported on fifth wheel plate (6-8 inches.)
    10. Pull Tractor Brake.
    11. Get out and check if landing gear is supporting trailer. No sinking or leaning.
    12. Get back in truck.
    13. Release Tractor Brake.
    14. Pull away feeling you just accomplished what very few can do.
    Does this sound right? Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  3. Dave1837

    Dave1837 Road Train Member

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    My process for just dropping a trailer (not at a dock) is,

    Back in

    Pull red button, leave yellow button pushed in (if your trailer has an automatic dumping suspension)
    Once all the air is drained out of the trailer, pull yellow button.

    I unlock my 5th wheel right off the bat, mainly because if the kingpin is wore out the 5th wheel might not unlock and you'll have to back up until you hear it "thunk".

    Lower landing gears all the way in high gear then about 15 turns in low gear. If it's empty, leave about an inch from the dolley pad to the ground.

    Disconnect air/electric

    Release parking brake, dump air and go
     
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  4. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    By the book.

    Reality is many places lock in the trailer, so chocking may not be necessary. If you are dropping and hooking, then you do not crank the landing gear all the way down, rather just until the foot touches the ground. With regards to the order of gear, fifth wheel and hoses, as long as you do it in the same order all the time. That way you will not miss a step. If you are concerned that you will skip something, always do fifth wheel last. That way you won't drop it on the ground nor will you tear your air lines. As far as verifying that the gear is supporting the trailer, you will know after a few times of doing it.

    Good luck
     
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  5. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    I start at landing gear, and work my way forwards. Lower it until it's about 3/4" from the ground. Pull king pin. Disconnect lines. Get in and dump bags. Ease out from under it. I don't bother with chocks, because my trailer has spring brakes on both axles. For the one in ten million chance all four brakes fail at once, I'll spend the day fixing it. When you recouple, air bags aired up. Ensures you won't high hook.

    I also don't drop my trailer unless it's empty, and I don't do drop and hook. I'm the yard jockey too.
     
  6. TequilaSunrise

    TequilaSunrise Medium Load Member

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    Most importantly make sure you do the process in the same order every time.

    When I uncouple a trailer I do it most expensive accident to least expensive accident.

    Choke the wheels
    Landing gear
    Air lines
    Pigtail
    Release king pin
    Visual inspection that all is complete

    Get in truck
    Dump the air
    Push the red brake
    Pull away slowly
     
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  7. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    I always drop landing gear first.
     
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  8. Flankenfurter

    Flankenfurter Light Load Member

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    Why leave an inch when it's empty?
     
  9. Flankenfurter

    Flankenfurter Light Load Member

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    Could you explain a little more about this? "Lock in the trailer"? Thanks for the help.
     
  10. Flankenfurter

    Flankenfurter Light Load Member

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    Thanks for the reply. Why lower the landing gear to about 3/4"?

    What is a "high hook?"
     
  11. Flankenfurter

    Flankenfurter Light Load Member

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    Looking forward to having my system down like this. Thanks...and NO accidents. :)
    Hadn't heard "pigtail" before.
     
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