Uncoupling order, lowering landing gear and air bag suspension?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Flankenfurter, Feb 8, 2021.

  1. Flankenfurter

    Flankenfurter Light Load Member

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    Yep. Good advice. I might add Seal to the Lock if my company uses them. Thanks.
     
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  3. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Yes, if you see chocks in front of the docks, use them.
     
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  4. Corn-Fed

    Corn-Fed Light Load Member

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    No 1. Ive never actually measured anything so im eyeballing it, it would lower it about 2 or 3 inches. However it would depend on where you're measuring from because it's slope off the back of the fifth wheel when you drop the suspension.

    No 2. When I pull forward initially its only about 3 to 6 inches only enough to hear the jaws to disengage. The reason this is done is because if you don't pull forward you can put the kingpin in a bind and it could possibly cause damage. Im going to say it would probably be very unlikely but it could happen. Then after my suspension has drained I'll usually pull forward until the fifth wheel is clear of the trailer and raise my suspension. The back axel is usually partly under the trailer along with a few feet of frame. That way if the landing gear was to fail it would crash down onto the truck and should help limit damage to the trailer.

    For example a lot of places you may load or unload at may have you unhook and pull forward while they're loading you. When this happens after disconnecting I pull forward just enough that I still have frame under the trailer but the trailer isn't touching the truck anywhere so I dont get bounced around while they load. So if the forklift was to cause the landing gear to fail I can catch the trailer and possibly save injury to the operator.
     
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  5. Flankenfurter

    Flankenfurter Light Load Member

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    OK. So then it would make sense to me that if the tractor drops 2-3" after the suspension lowers, the landing gear should have 2" of space to the ground in order to avoid a high hook when coupling for the next driver. Makes sense.

    What have I learned so fa?. The CDL manual is probably outdated and leaving a gap under the landing gear pad is a good idea.
     
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  6. Flankenfurter

    Flankenfurter Light Load Member

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    I agree with pulling forward the 3-6" and THEN dropping bag pressure. If the landing gear is low enough to lift the apron off the 5th wheel, it would also not scrape the grease off, right? Then I would move forward another foot or two, get out and check the trailer being supported (asphalt/cement/mud/gravel), hoses/lines. Get in and drive away. Thanks.
     
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  7. Bill51

    Bill51 Road Train Member

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    I understood you.
    From the tractor, the front axle wheel will block view of the chock in front of the back axle wheel.
    Put the chock in front of the front axle wheel of the trailer.
    That way, you can look back and see it.

    Do not expect people to walk that whole 40 something feet to check.
     
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  8. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    The trailer won't drop hard on the gear, or damage cargo. Remember, you're dumping the airbags before you pull out from under it. Doing so lowers the trailer gently to the ground.
     
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  9. Flankenfurter

    Flankenfurter Light Load Member

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    That's the goal. I've seen (on YouTube) trailers fall an inch or so off the tractor. The goal for me is to make this all as smooth as possible. I think I'm understanding it all a lot better. I'll be better prepared to learn it in class and from trainers. Thanks.
     
  10. WesternPlains

    WesternPlains Road Train Member

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    Don’t be surprised if you don’t learn diddly from those people.
    Many have said so. Their real learning was when they got out there on their own.
    You’re smart to be learning on your own.
     
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  11. Flankenfurter

    Flankenfurter Light Load Member

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    I've been a teacher/trainer for almost 30 years. I believe, and don't quote me, that at CDL "cram schools", all the instructors are there to do is get you to pass the test. Stick to the manual. Avoid expanding on information that's not on the test. Don't talk too much. When answering questions, tell them the right answer. Explain why it is right. Don't explain why the wrong answer is wrong...and so on.

    Having this forum of experienced drivers is really a great testament to how cool technology is.
     
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