That scenario is definitely a bad scenario for Schneider, for sure.
So, put something in the contract that would charge IC's for dropping accepted loads if they take a new, different load that overlaps timing with the canceled loads.
Do it often enough, and it starts costing more.
Do it often enough, and Schneider tells you to #### off and drops your contract.
There are ways for Schneider to protect themselves from IC shenanigans while not opening IC's up for abuse.
Any example you give could be addressed.
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The second problem is employee classification. Schneider is already involved in a class action lawsuit claiming that their ICs should be classified as employees. Putting in a charge back system might blur the line between ICs and employees, at least in terms of the law.Cat sdp Thanks this. -
As for charge backs blurring the line between employee and contractor, it would have the exact opposite result. You charge back contractors, not employees.062 Thanks this. -
Charge backs are common for commission based employees, so if Schneider starts charge backs for ICs, it can be argued (not that I agree with the logic, I don't) that ICs are commission based employees. ICs can pull loads for whatever reason, all this clause is allowing Schneider to do the same.Farmerbob1 Thanks this. -
Seriously, there is an entire branch of the legal system devoted to exactly this sort of thing. Contract law. Every single idea you or I have has been considered a thousand times over.
Identify the behavior you want to prevent. Make rules to penalize it. Make exception paths if occasional occurrences of the behavior is acceptable.
The idea of writing up a contract that opens up your IC business partners for abuse should never happen unless Schneider wants the IC program to go away and they don't have the balls to simply cancel it.dwells40 Thanks this. -
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We aren't allowed to drop a load once booked just because you don't want it.
That dog don't hunt.
Truck in shop.- Missed 2 loads in 4 years.
All trucks= 4 loads in 4 years.
When loads cancel, you find another hopefully. Most of the time you can, not always.
But if you're talking several loads out, that gives several days, even a week for someone to take it.
And they have to take several overwhelming minutes, and a few key strokes to do it.
If it's good freight it's gone in minutes.
If it's really good, you may just eat the deadhead.
Why anyone would try to be an IC where you are subjugated by the parent company is beyond The OM's logic. -
I don't feel subjugated by anyone. I'm as happy as a simple man could be. I conduct myself and my business in an honorable way and therefore I don't have any problems.
I do wish people would stop speculating about things they know nothing about. None of you 3, @Farmerbob1, @gentleroger ,@Dave_in_AZ are contractors for Schneider, yet you all feel qualified to remark on what they should or should not do; you're not. Nor am I qualified to remark on what would make Landstar, Crete, or the training department of Schneider better. I consider all 3 of you TTR friends and I'm not trying to bust your balls, but none of you know what you're talking about. Furthermore, and more to the point, none of you, nor I, have any idea what the new contract entails.
I've got a meeting set up with my guy on Monday. I'll let you know what I find out.
"Subjugated"..... oh my
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