Two axle Jeep with short neck RGN- will it be practical?

I’ve posted in this forum before about wanting a single axle jeep for my tandem tractor. But several of you have said that it probably wouldn’t do exactly what I was looking to do. So, I’m wondering if a two axle jeep would be any better. What I’m up against is that on 6 axles I just can’t scale these 350 class excavators for my construction company unless I remove the buckets. And, I can’t haul a Cat D8 when we rent one of those occasionally. My state will permit 46k on my tandems, but I just can’t position those excavators to get less than 48k on the drives, plus I’m about 122k total anyway, which is almost 3k overweight. My truck has 46K rear suspension and 13.2K front axle, but I don’t want to add a pusher because of the weight penalty when pulling a dump trailer.

Anyway, I’ve found this nice late model two axle 26 ft jeep, but to make it work with my 95 inch swing RGN, I would have to move the jeep fifth wheel back on the frame so that the RGN kingpin would ride almost directly on top of the forward jeep axle. So my question is, does this do anything to help me? I suppose that I could permit 13.2k+46k+46k+60k with this setup, but I don’t imagine that the truck drives or steer axle could ever get anywhere close to maximum weights with the RGN kingpin so far back on the jeep.

Although the setup might possibly work for the excavator and maybe even the D8 in this state, what about in my neighboring state that will only permit 40k on either of the 2+2? In other words, I don’t want to spend all this money on a jeep and still not be able to haul the excavator in that state because enough weight on the drives to reduce the jeep to 40k max.

Also, another downside is would I have to get a permit for over length even when I’m empty, unless I stack the jeep which would be a PITA for moving a couple of excavators and a dozer 50 miles to a different job site? Any thoughts on this whole brainstorm? Or is it just a brain fart?

 

This is a Kaufman trailer, a lower price point trailer that is perfectly adequate for my needs if I had a triaxle truck. They do not offer a flip neck. The fact of the matter is that I’m trying to use my 565 hp 18 speed 3.90 truck for more than just a lowboy truck, such as pulling a dump trailer and a flatbed, since I don’t really need it to be a lowboy truck more than a few days a month and it’s got expensive license and insurance. It’s like everything else in business, though, and that is a person needs the right tools for the job. I probably should just add a pusher axle and take the weight penalty but then I couldn’t haul 48000 lb flatbed loads in the off-season.

 

How long is the swing clearance on your trailer? Your single axle jeep looks like it might work for me if the scale house guys or, more worrisome, the portable DOT guys, consider that a triaxle group and let me permit it up to 60K. Because several on here have said that the single axle jeep will over-axle pretty quickly if you have to weigh it alone. (Some states have a rule about each axle in a tri group must be certain percentage of the total, but the heavy guys I’ve talked to here say our DOT is okay with whatever as long as the group is not overweight.)

I think Rontonio is right, a long jeep with a short neck RGN is a bad idea and does nothing except make it hard to get into the job sites. And that’s one reason I have a daycab instead of a long large car, is so I can get into some of these sites with a lowboy and a dump trailer.

If I want to keep a shorter truck with no pusher axle for these reasons, then I suppose I need to hire the excavator moved if I need to go over to the adjoining 40,000 lb. tandem limit state. And keep paying the Cat dealer to deliver and retrieve the rental D8.