Dual Citizenship

Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by Starline, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. Cree trucker

    Cree trucker Bobtail Member

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    Ive been looking for this information but cant find it anywhere!!!!
    Im a native american born in canada and have a ssc for USA but i called 3 border and got 3 different answers
    Where can i find this info?
     
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  3. Cree trucker

    Cree trucker Bobtail Member

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    Ive been looking for this information but cant find it anywhere!!!!
    Im a native american born in canada and have a ssc for USA but i called 3 border and got 3 different answers
    Where can i find this info?
     
  4. dancecanyon

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    I dunno. On paper, maybe, but not so in real life. I've called the McDonald's of carriers, SWIFT, and they told me point blank that they would not consider hiring me until I came into the US, got my social security card in hand, and switched my license over. I also tried one other smaller company and they too said the same thing. I would be going to the US as a Native American.
    On the upside, customs has told me repeatedly(because I ask repeatedly), that I can drive down, or fly..whatever, whenever I want to.

    I'm currently checking into running as an O/O with a fleet down there....the recruiter seemed to think I would still have to reside in Canada if I wanted to bring in a Canadian bought truck.

    In the meantime, I'm awaiting response from a Cabotage Law specialist and Native American Status.
     
  5. not4hire

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    Jay Treaty

    The Jay Treaty, signed in 1794 between Great Britain and the United States, provides that American Indians may travel freely across the international boundary. Under the treaty and corresponding legislation, Native Indians born in Canada are entitled to freely enter the United States for the purpose of employment, study, retirement, investing, and/or immigration.

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  6. dancecanyon

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    Yes, it’s clear that I can immigrate in a second...it’s not clear whether I can reside in Canada and cabotage away with a Canadian plated truck...but playing with an American plated truck will be fine.

    Also, trying to argue that I can go down tomorrow and start driving with a company, to a company, has fallen on deaf ears. Swift even told me that they needed to check on these things and took a day to get back to me...only to return with the reply that they wouldn’t consider hiring me without all the aforementioned. I’m pretty sure I told them to check out the similar pages you provided but methinks years of anti-immigration rhetoric has caused them all to pause on anything not within their myopic view.

    i figured starting a fight with a potential company right from the get go would set up a fairly unhealthy relationship from the beginning.
     
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  7. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Big companies are just like governments with their internal bureaucracies. I wouldn't even bother, unless that's who you want to work for and then you'll just have to play by their rules. I would be more inclined to seek out O/O or small, even medium companies where you can talk directly to decision makers.
     
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  8. BigHossVolvo

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    I would just work for Landstar dude, they will Indiana plate a Canadian purchased truck (as long as its not leased) and you having status, can do whatever you want, they will set you up in the system that way, regardless of where you live. At least that's what they told me, and my friend from England who has PR in Canada and a work visa for the US.
     
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  9. dancecanyon

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    I just got off the phone an hour ago with a US based immigration lawyer and she had some pretty solid info that she seemed happy to share. Apparently the running motto with “Indians” and immigration is “Don’t mess with the Indians”. She said the litmus test and without investing in a bunch of equipment, would be to head down to the border when I want and go in to get my Green card stamp which sets me up for social security purposes. They’ll mail my cards to any US address and off I go. If there’s any issues while at the border, I am to give her a call.
    Otherwise, I am good to go with trucking or pretty much anything else I want to do work wise down there although there is a distinction of sorts should I become an 'employee' of someone else. I was looking into Admiral Merchants and their request for a 2290 (?) and an employer identification number had the lawyer give a perplexed 'hmmm' and I think more in terms of, I don't need to do that. I'll approach Admiral about it later. Landstar is my second choice. I don't want to go full operating authority as this will be my first rodeo as an owner operator and would like some sort of umbrella organization to touch back upon.
    So, first I'm off to the border in my SUV and possible tow RV. I want to take a long slow tour around the US while I sort some other shizz and then arrive in San Francisco to pick up my official papers. Then head back to Canada for my second dose of vaccine and should have the financing set up by then to get back on the road. That's the plan, anyway.

    If anyone in Ontario way has a tow trailer RV that is less than 5000#--my towing capacity is 5500#, I'll consider buying it. This is a call-out, btw for anyone reading. :D
     
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  10. mudflap77

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    Landstar also requires you get a EIN. It's not a big deal to get, just an online form.
    The 2290 is the heavy vehicle use tax which is required to operate a heavy truck in the states no matter who the carrier is. Most carriers look after that for you. At Landstar you have to get in on your own like at admiral merchants, again not a big deal to to.
     
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