Trailer air

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  1. spindrift

    spindrift Road Train Member

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    It has been an exciting 18 hours. Got to my customer last night and pulled in to park for my break since delivery was this morning. Immediately heard the squeal of a pulley or tensioner. Determined it was the idler pulley or tensioner for my A/C compressor belt. Called a dealership in Atlanta and ordered for pickup after this morning's delivery.

    Pulled into the rack, all is good except for the squeal. The customer has you park with your front drive axle on a large hump in order to have a good downward slope to your tanker.

    Finished unloading, started the engine and I immediately noticed I had dropped a good bit of air pressure. Alarm came on and for some reason had difficulty building air pressure in the usual amount of time. Finally got aired up and pulled out of the rack. Came to stop at the exit gate and while I was breaking I heard air escaping. Windows were down and at first it sounded like it was coming from outside. There was enough air loss that the dash ABS light came on. My immediate concern was to get to the dealer. Made my way there but everytime I had to break, especially for a traffic light, I lost air pressure and the ABS light came on.

    Once at the dealer I got out of the cab and depressed the brake pedal thinking I'd hear the noise outside. I believe it was actually coming from the trailer valve in the cab.

    I'm not going to be able to mess with this until I stop for the day. I've never had to tear into either the trailer or tractor brake valves. Any ideas as to what I might expect to find?
     
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  3. jason6541

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    Might help if you provide make model and year of truck. Newer trucks valves are plastic. Remove snd replace. Could have a line rubbed a hole in. Line could of popped out of a port. Service side I assume. Check brake chambers for a bad diaphragm.
     
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  4. spindrift

    spindrift Road Train Member

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    My bad...
    2004 PB 379

    I only hear the air release/loss while braking.
     
  5. jason6541

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    Get a helper to pinpoint it hold brake down and listen for leaks. Could be the MV3, treadle valve. Brake psi switch behind dash. Just a little diaphragm inside those. Air line rupture.
     
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  6. John E.

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    You may have a broken spring in your maxi brake pot, feeding back through your valve. Can cause rapid air loss at times.
     
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  7. spindrift

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    I'm taking this pic from the cab floor...looking up. The one port which does not have an air line connection, is the one blowing out air when I depress the brake pedal. It's marked, "EXH3".

    How can I check a spring in a can? I disconnected both air lines from my trailer, pressed on the brake pedal and I got the same air release from that EXH3 port. I think I can say that the problem is with the truck and NOT the trailer, correct?

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  8. Rideandrepair

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    It’s backfeeding. Probably a leak on the trailer. Set the trailer brake, hit the pedal. See if it still does it.
     
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    Backfeeding may not be the right term. Lol. I mean to set the trailer brake only. Button out. Tractor brake released. Button in. Hit foot brake, see if it leaks.
     
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  10. spindrift

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    Set ONLY the trailer brake??
     
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    Yes to make sure the leaks in the Trailer, If it no longer leaks, do the opposite set Tractor, release Trailer, apply foot brake, and see if it leaks. If so release foot brake and apply hand Trailer brake it should also leak. Then with Truck brake set, Trailer brake released, and Trailer hand brake applied, bungee tied if needed, you can walk around the Trailer and find the leak.
     
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