Roehl 15 hour clock 6 hours of drive

Go ahead and run out your 70. Less competition for me. My checking account is always hungry for more!

 

It will stop them from making driver working 15 hours day, if that what they are doing. When they don't get the miles on the truck for the week because they are waiting the drivers time. They will care hopefully. If their truck is not rolling they are not making money also.

I had a dispatcher that did same thing to me. Send me to customer low on hour then say you can use PC to leave once empty. I was working 15+ hours some days. It was all legal they would say. So I said I'm logging all my working day. Run me 15+ hours and I'll run out of my 70 pretty fast. Plus my company would preplan trips onto my truck. So once I logged everything. It would also throw off all the next loads because once I got parking and did Post Trip Inspection. I had my 10 hours off the next loads was late from the start. Because dispatch never planned on me logging everything. They figured I would just do 15 minutes for loading or unloading and rest of time in sleeper.

I started to log everything.and only stop my clocks for eating or bathroom or shower stops. I should add I had a guaranteed minimum pay every week. So that was a big help for me. I figured my dispatcher could not see the problem they would have once a driver logs everything. I could see because the loads were booked to closed together. I never had 6 hours between loads like the OP has.

I would ask safety first if they understand sending driver to customer when they know he will run out of hours is illegal. Hopefully safety can correct dispatch. If not, log everything you do, and see what happens. Most dispatcher are not smart enough to plan on that. The driver will at least, never work more then 70 hours.

 

Who has more money, Roehl or the driver? Running out your 70 is a stupid idea. You’re biting off your nose to spite your face.

“Hey, I think I’ll screw myself out of money. That’ll show Roehl!”

The answer is simple. Just do like me and countless other drivers and quit and go find a legit outfit.

 

I have a guaranteed minimum pay so that was a big help to me. The less miles I would run the more per mile I would make.

These new truck are expensive and they need them to run miles. If the driver is not making money. The company is not making money also. If driver runs legal log book and the loads are late. The person to blame will be dispatch. They can't ask driver to do something illegal. That's the benefit of ELDs.

It's playing a little game with dispatch if you don't have a guaranteed minimum pay. The drives might not want play the game and take pay cut for the week.

 

One thing we all learned after a driver took out a bus load of hockey players here in Saskatchewan.
No matter how bad the company is. At the end of the day if things go terribly wrong. The company may only get a $5,000 fine. But it’s the driver that will go to prison for eight years.

 

You’re not going to get much support for this plan on this site, but I fundamentally agree with you.

The average driver tries to be conservative with their hours to maximize pay, but that also allows companies to keep pay low because they know their drivers will log conservatively to "make up" for the money they lose by being paid peanuts.

Conversely, if more drivers were like you, the companies might actually have to increase pay to attract drivers, because then 70 hours would be just 70 hours, not 80, 90, or 100.

If you haven't made it in 70 hours, you ain't gonna make it.

 

And if wishes were horses...

The problem is the exclusion of transportation workers from the FSLA. As long as everyone else in the economy is covered by it and we are not we are going to have our time wasted; and that is the root cause of creative logging.

 

Nice gig.

 

Leaving a shipper on PC when out of hours is perfectly legal. Roehl planning loads like that bites ###, but does not break regulations.