I think what these people were trying to tell you is that even owner-operators should not drive tankers or trucks at all unless their trucks have cameras that broadcast to some kind of authority such as the police station. Tell me how this is not a logical extension of their ridiculous point.
Between 90 and 99 percent of outward-facing camera violations have absolutely no chance of causing an accident.
These trucking companies won't give up on the things until every last one of their experienced truckers goes elsewhere or decides to work in a factory and they're forced to hire a bunch of green drivers to replace them, and their fleets get decimated with accidents. That's how they make their fleets safer, lol. "These cameras must work! They keep catching my desperately hired former stoners doing all sorts of things wrongly!"
Tanker Companies with no Cameras ?
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Now there getting trucks that detect your eye movement and if your looking at the road. If your eyes are not straight ahead more than 3 secs an alarm goes off and it's sent to safety apparently loves and pfj have the systems already were getting them soon where I work
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Dana Transport has External cameras only nothing facing the driver.
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Yeah, sure, truckers are too stupid to competently work on an unskilled production line, and we all know that no trucker has any education or qualifications. Yeah, sure.
I have a master's degree in law, and 20 years of military experience in a non-trucking related skill. I've worked in factories before too. You'd have to be pretty god ###### stupid to not be able to do that kind of work competently, and it makes no sense to think that requires anything near the cognition required to keep a big rig out of accidents. I suggested a factory job as a college job elsewhere, as that's what I used it for. If you seriously think that truckers are too dumb to do a factory job right, then why the hell are hiring departments asking them to drive a truck flawlessly under the watchful eye of a camera in the first place—when that obviously exceeds their abilities? Do you want to get people killed?
America is more of a service and tech society. Factory jobs are a relatively low percent of the available jobs anyway. People naturally work better on jobs they like and jobs that don't treat them like a cheating spouse. The point I made is valid; and since all these trucks have installed cameras, the accident rates in big rigs have continued to climb ever since 2009 when they started installing them. The cameras simply aren't working. Get rid of them, and you just might get the accident rates down again.Last edited: Nov 23, 2021
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For example, even if the camera is your own personal property, it can be called in discovery at trial for either civil or criminal evidence. This is tantamount to violation of your 5th Amendment rights to self-incrimination. In many cases, and I've actually had this happen myself, the camera tattles on only part of what happens—typically the part that you did something wrong, but it doesn't see the reason why. In my case, it didn't see the truck jacking attempt I had to escape from; it only saw the desperate escape I made. It's the nature of the camera to be myopic, and only see the immediate reaction, of a trucker, but not the logical train of events that led up to it.
A second reason I have is that the implication is that minor violations of common traffic laws are necessarily always dangerous. Several excellent studies have shown that traffic control devices, lines, and other distractions actually make driving more dangerous. Things like watching the speedometer, looking for signs, and accompanying stress create mindsets that make drivers more, not less vulnerable. People learn to trust the signs and road markings, instead of having their guard up, and they take safety for granted. This isn't just theory, but it's reality. The combination of distracting signage and complacency caused by official traffic control actually increases accidents counterintuitively. Not to mention the stress the cameras create causes drivers to tire more easily. The Story of Hans Monderman and the Safety of Insecurity – Column – Car and DriverLast edited: Nov 23, 2021
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