Not sure if this applies everywhere, but in some places, you can just go into a court room, sit down, and watch cases. I've been to several and watched. Actually very interesting to see.
That woman has to prove in court, that anything that may have happened, meets the standard of sexual harassment, which is unlikely. Strong chance that the accusations would be dropped, and she apologizes for making those allegations, to avoid trial.
Anyone can just toss around outrageous allegations in public, but once they have to answer for it in a court of law, it's amazing how many admit they lied, and apologize.
Careful with sexist behavior, almost got kicked out of CDL class
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Someone such as yourself who would wane banefully should pay more attention in any future posts.Boondock Thanks this. -
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BTW, "acknowledged" has another D in it and "separate" has only two Es in it.
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I listened to Ms. H.R. politely as she made the false allegation of a sexist remark. The fact of the matter was that HR had not investigated anything, just took the complainer's word for it. I was not shown anything, only told there had been a complaint about "doing it".
I was handed a 'confession' to sign, and then I asked her something like "If this investigation is still open, should I contact my attorney now or would you prefer that I wait until it is closed? I don't sign anything until my attorney has reviewed it, so I'll need a copy of this document to go forward". Got a blank stare for about 3 seconds and told to please go on back to work. Nothing was heard of the matter again. Later it was investigated correctly, a huge waste of company time, and the truth came out. She had wanted me to make a false confession, just so she wouldn't have to do her job. I was pissed off about that.
No Kowtow. Never apologize. Never explain. (someone made a coffee cup of it OK and that's funny). It was a favorite piece of advice given to young men by Benjamin Jowett (1817-1893), cited in: Brewer's Famous Quotations referencing an article, presented by the Oxford Chronicle, 7 October 1893.
Today, this ancient sentiment is decried by misguided people, who see it as sexist (because of the origin?) In reality it's good advice for any person who isn't going to be so easily pushed around by pompous know-it-alls and self-righteous dummies. There are many proper times to apologize or explain, but never when in the right.
The additional saying "No Kowtow" is No kneeling and bowing so low as to have one's head scraping the ground. No self respecting person kowtows to the ridiculous as if they are all-powerful objects of worship.
So what had I said? There was a piece of electromechanical equipment in for service and none of us guys could fit our hand into a tight space with a small driver to loosen a nut. Like 3-32 size. Small machine hardware. I said ony that "The women have smaller hands. One of them might be willing to do it". This was blown up into something else and Ms. Notorious-Complainer made her idiotic complaint a few days later. (In the meantime one of the women was good enough to reach in and loosen the stubborn fastener, for which my boss and I were grateful.) Later it was outed who had complained. The gossips.. They will eat each other alive -something else to stay away from. I'm glad I don't have to deal with this stuff any more.Hammer166 and Pamela1990 Thank this. -
We don't really have an HR department, but I am close to it as we have.
I tell the employees if they have a problem, to bring it to me.
If a sexual harrassment complaint were to be brought to my attention, that person will be asked many questions, and it all recorded. They best have some sort of proof as well, not just throwing around wild accusations.
Then the other person will be asked to come in and share their side of the story. Then everyone else will be asked to come discuss what they saw and heard. There will not just be some wild accusations made, and me gullible enough to believe it.
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