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ammonium nitrate slurry

Discussion in 'Hazmat Trucking Forum' started by Qbf594, Jan 24, 2022.

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  1. Jan 24, 2022 #1
    Qbf594

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    I'm going to walk thru a plant tomorrow that I might drive for but I have less than 0 knowledge about any of this--- I have a tanker endorsement but never pulled a tank. I have pulled totes before, in a box and on a flatbed, but no tanker. The guy at this company says the slurry is like paste and doesn't move much.
    I have a class A, this is a class B which should be easier in some aspects, I guess? but I honestly know less than 0 about that too. All I know about class B vehicles is that's dump trucks and cement mixers. This is neither LOL. I believe he said it is an 18k lb bulk truck. vs their big truck which is 2x that IIRC
    also I have to drive this truck off the road. which I am a little neurotic about, it just seems like a bad idea to take a big heavy truck off the road. Yes I know that's stupid because that's how roads happen and foundations are poured but I had a 2wd F350 that I got stuck 2x in the 5 years I drove it because...well it was really really heavy, duh! (and 2wd...)

    also- for the hazmat part--- if anyone knows about NY dmv- if I took the computer test in 2019 but didn't go thru with it (the fingerprints etc), do I take the test again or just proceed with the fingerprints?
     
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  3. Jan 24, 2022 #2
    REO6205

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    Will you be hauling ANFO?
     
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    tscottme

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    Is the slurry hauled in a tanker like a fuel tanker or a pneumatic tanker? Either way you can easily haul it. Thick liquids don't surge very much. Even if it was thin as water, just don't jerk the wheel and slam on the brakes at the sametime. Slow to off-ramp speed BEFORE you get to the curve.

    No chance your HazMat test from 2019 is still valid for getting the HM endorsement in 2022.
     
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  5. Jan 24, 2022 #4
    Dave1837

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    I used to haul magnesium hydroxide slurry and that was some of the worst surge I've ever felt in my life. Slurries are thick liquids, if cold it won't move at all but they're usually kept warm to keep a liquid state. If it's a class B straight truck I think you'll be fine, chances are it's a baffled tank. If not, watch your side to side movement off road.

    Your hazmat endorsement is good for 4 years, you'll need to be fingerprinted before you can obtain the endorsement. Probably better off re-taking the test and just doing it all in one shot
     
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  7. Jan 24, 2022 #5
    Qbf594

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    um. I don't know what you're asking so I don't have an answer lol. I'd be delivering product to holes meant to blow stuff up!!
     
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  8. Jan 24, 2022 #6
    Qbf594

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    I think it might be a pneumatic tanker. Although I don't really know WTF I'm talking about ... honest. The process as I've been told is load, drive, deliver to the site putting the correct amount of product in each bore as the laborers help in moving the hose and the blast designer relays how many pounds go in what spot. So...a big mobile vat of sludge with a computer on it and some hoses. You know more than I do I'm sure....
    also I don't jerk the wheel or slam on the brakes even with a van. and NOT with a flatbed. cuz..I'm good. But I don't know HOW good...and I don't intend to find out LOL
     
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  9. Jan 24, 2022 #7
    REO6205

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    Yup, probably ANFO if you're hauling directly to the holes. I don't know what they have back there but out here they use a pump truck that can mix the product and unload it into the hole.. Don't worry about hauling it. It's very stable and doesn't slosh around.
    Of all the classes and types of explosives it's the most stable. It's classed as a Blasting Agent. Here's some homework for you. Have fun on your new job.

    ANFO - Wikipedia.
     
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  10. Jan 24, 2022 #8
    Qbf594

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    well thanks :) It's not a job yet, just a get to know you, walk-about at the plant, and then probably a virtual interview with the bigger guys out of state.
    I'm glad it's not terrifyingly dangerous, but honestly, if things go south I probably wouldn't panic for long, eh? Money's good and I'm thinking it's about time to get back to work. This home reno crap is killing me!!!! I'll be safer hauling nitroglycerine than putting in 4x4 posts by myself...( How long till the toenail comes off?)
     
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  11. Jan 24, 2022 #9
    REO6205

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    We hauled explosives for several years. Our insurance finally got to the point where we couldn't do it any more. We didn't have any claims, just a greedy insurance industry,
    The explosive company we were tied in with now does most their own trucking. We'll send a bulk tanker out with a load of AN for them but they do their own mixing.
    If it's a quarry there will always be other vehicles around to tow you if you get stuck but most of the time that won't be a concern.
    If you're interested in that type of work you can put in your time and learn to be a blaster. There's quite a bit to know and lots of tests to take but they make good money and see a lot of country that most people don't.
    I still renew my blaster's license even though I don't use it all that much.

    Here's a look at what you might be doing

     
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  12. Jan 25, 2022 #10
    RockinChair

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    What kind of money are we talking here? And who issues a blaster's license, ATF or a state-level agency?

    Cool video, btw!
     
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