Act of moral turpitude need help

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Tripp68, May 18, 2022.

  1. skytrash

    skytrash Light Load Member

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    i'll take 2 buckets of periods and 1 bucket of coma's please
     
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  3. Another Canadian driver

    Another Canadian driver Road Train Member

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    Problems happens all the time.
    All problems have solutions.
    All solutions come with different costs associated.
    His actions and attitude were no solutions at all.
    Just an aggravation and a major cost increase to an operation.
    He is on a learning curve. I hope.
     
  4. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    It’s called “Stream of Conciousness” - your OCD will learn to overcome.

    :)
     
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  5. Another Canadian driver

    Another Canadian driver Road Train Member

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    We are out of buckets due to supply chain issues.
    Maybe jugs could be OK?
    Please let the Shipping Department know.
    Thank you.
     
  6. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Since the dispatcher said if it blows they will send road service to him, he could have driven to some comfortable place on the way, parked, and noticed the tire was flat (I don't know who let all of the air out, said the voices in my head). These situations are often tough, especially for new drivers, because what they hear in school and online prepares them to make "nuclear" demands of the company for a burnt out light or dirt on the sidewall. It takes some experience to know what can be limped to a place that will minimize the inconvenience to everyone and what is unreasonable. While it's best to discover the defects when you first find the trailer, maybe if he did the company just forces him to pull it anyway.
     
  7. Shackdaddy

    Shackdaddy Medium Load Member

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    Yeah I’ve known a few drivers that intentionally did stuff like that. One of them screwed up and put his pocketknife in the tire to get out of a run dispatcher told him he had to do but he didn’t have legal hours. Problem was he did it parked on side of road from customer he just delivered to and someone there saw him do it and squealed on him so he was fired.
     
  8. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    One part of being a truck driver is learning that no matter what you do, someone will ALWAYS say you should have done something else. That doesn't mean you did the right or the wrong thing. It doesn't mean saying you should have done X is wrong. If I suspected the company is going to want to ignore maintenance issues, I might have not talked to them seeking permission to get the tire replaced, but reported the tire flat and damaged, to try and make them decide to send out road service where you are with a new tire.

    The industry doesn't do much to transmit the wisdom that comes from experience to new drivers. New drivers can't know what is the common responses to some situations if they are new to the industry. One thing that can help is for newbies and trainers to stay in touch after the newbie gets his own truck. A quick call or text to the old trainer might help the newbie learn what the options are and how to communicate the best option to the company.

    It's water over the dam so try to learn the lesson and use it next time. This industry leaves whole encyclopedias unsaid to new drivers and then jumps on their head for not knowing all of the unsaid info. Even 30 years after I started there were unusual things happening or questions I never would have known to ask until I was in a jam.
     
  9. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    That's an important lesson. Never do the wrong thing around any witnesses. I think that's the lesson, or maybe never use a knife to sabotage a tire when taking out the valve stem, is much, much safer. When you are done, store the valve stem in its original position on the tire.
     
  10. Another Canadian driver

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    You offered 2 great suggestions:
    What form of reporting to choose depending on situations.
    Close contact between trainers and trainees.
    I had my fair share of trainees and I would add another one.
    As a newbie, please read everything related to your job.
    You are usually provided with:
    Company policies.
    Driver manual.
    ELD manual.
    ABS manual.
    Transmission manual.
    Owner manual.
    Collision mitigation manual.
    Trailer operation (reefer ) manual.
    HOS regulations.
    Pre-trip procedures.
    How much hurt will it cause you to read them and ask questions
    until you understand the equipment and the rules and regulations you'll operate under?
     
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  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    And when following the directions given to you by the company in one of those sources be prepared to be told, we don't do that anymore, or "what the He** is wrong with you?" Having a CDL means always being told "no, no, no, we don't do that".
     
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