to all end dump haulers...

It does take some getting used to standing a trailer up, and honestly everytime I dump a frameless I get that little bit of “oh boy here we go” feeling. But that’s what makes it fun. A full frame is a lot more sure footed that is certain. However they are heavier than a frameless. And if you get stuck you can’t “caterpillar” yourself out, you’re just stuck. Also, if things go south in a full frame and it goes over, it’s probably taking the truck with it. Violently. If a frameless tips the draft arms are SUPPOSED to break away, and not take the truck with it. As shown in Exhibit A.

Exhibit A

 

Yes a full frame is more stable. With a frameless ya gotta make sure you're level when ya dump but imo there lies the challenge and the rush of it.

 

While the box is up and you are attempting to move, make sure you also put your power divider in. While unloading, the drives don't have a lot of traction.

 

I’m wondering if I did a short term rental of a 32’ to get the hang of things before moving up to a longer trailer would be a good idea.

I have a few places to practice with an empty trailer and I’ll have a lil sticky note on steps to dump until I get my stuff together.

 

My advice would be to go ahead and get what you need, better yet ride with a driver if you can who pulls frameless and see if you can get the feel for it, I trained a guy for 1 day and never saw him again, he was honest with me and said the trailer scared him too much, you’ll know quickly if you have the stones for it or not. A 32ft trailer is nothing near the experience of a 40ft frameless, it’s night and day, I hate to say but you’ve just got to get out there and do it, and do it safely.

 

Did you have to interact with Bob Pace? He was dispatcher for the dumptrucks running gypsum. I was not the first person to threaten him with physical harm because of the way he talks to others. Their dump equipment is older retired trucks and thats fine. They were attentive to the condition of the vehicles. But dont forget I was the third person to tip this trailer over due to mechanical failures. My issue is that Bob hides behind the Pendlans (owners) and they happily protect him. There's still better companies to do local work for.

 

I agree with @Trashtrucker1707 I’d go right for the 40 footer. While yes, a 32’ would give you the chance to learn the process, it’s a whole different ball game dumping a 40’ and you would almost have to break bad habits that might get you in trouble from dumping a short trailer. You can have a little bit of a lean with a short trailer and as soon as the load breaks from the nose you’re usually fine, in a long trailer you got 8 more feet of product in the air. Long story short you can get away with stuff in a 32’ that you just can’t with a 40’ and, as weird as it sounds, you need to test that limit. The first time you roll it forward away from a pile and a set of duals drops in a hole while it’s stood up and it rocks all the way out of your passenger mirror, and you can see daylight under the tires, it’s an attention getter. And you’ll learn what caused that, and how not to let that happen again.

 

@Coolbreezin yes Bob was my dispatcher, and yes I agree he was not easy to deal with, but he has since retired and they have reorganized the pay structure. I’m simply stating cypress dump work is actually a pretty good gig if you don’t mind the monotony of 2 trips back and forth to jax, when I was there we at least had the palatka run in the afternoons for a change of pace.

 

Thanks for the advice @motocross25 and @Trashtrucker1707!

 

I would NOT recommend a Wink Trailer. While it is light is has not held up to the weights that I pull everyday. I am going to have a new trailer built but haven't decided what manufacturer it will be. Probably a Trail Star who is now owned by Mac trailers in Alliance OH.
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