Becoming a hazmat private carrier.... what's involved?

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  1. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    We're expanding our farms, and one of the limitations we're running into is that we are limited in our choices for liquid oxygen suppliers because those suppliers can't seem to keep drivers. A couple of them have declined to bid on one of the farms. There's several of us in that dilemma, so the suggestion came up to buy a cryo trailer and make a run a week to one farm or another and do our own transport. We have available drivers and trucks under our own DOT.

    What's involved in adding hazmat (cryo oxygen) to our operation? We'll remain a private carrier, but I assume there's additional insurance requirements, inspections, etc. Can someone give a a run down where to start looking?
     
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  3. larry2903

    larry2903 Heavy Load Member

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    I’d say start with your insurance company, I would think they could give you some guidance. Follow up with your state commercial vehicle compliance office. I have no experience, those are just guesses based on what I’d do.
     
  4. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    Insurance; update your MCS90 and MCS150 with the DOT.

    Training documentation for drivers with HM endorsements; plus ANY staff involved in any way with the drivers and their equipment conducted within 90 days of starting this aspect of your business. Rinse and repeat every 3 years. J J Keller has everything you need.

    Trailer inspection and maintenance is going to be the expensive part; cyro trailer is a 'special' animal and I don't know anyone who leases them turn key.
     
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  5. roundhouse

    roundhouse Road Train Member

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    Maybe you could rent one of
    Your drivers out to the cryo company ?
    To deliver the loads to
    Your place ?

    or trip lease one of your tractors to them and pull their trailer ?
     
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  6. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    You made me look: there are actually several outfits that lease cryo trailers, according to google. I'm such a "buy it with cash" kinda guy that leasing never entered my mind, but in this case the lessor should have their finger on the legalities. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll be climbing on the phone Tuesday, see if they'll talk to a crazy farmer with a nutty idea......
     
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  7. 86scotty

    86scotty Road Train Member

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    Before you chase anything else I'd figure out the insurance. My insurer is fairly big and they work solely with truckers/small trucking companies. They use all the big agencies and they won't touch haz. I think this is why you almost never see an O/O or real small fleet moving haz.

    If there is a trick to this I'd love to know more too!
     
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  8. bonder45

    bonder45 Road Train Member

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    Running haz I’m sitting at $60k / year for all the insurances :(

    It was hard for my small little 3 truck carrier……but oh so worth it.
     
  9. shatteredsquare

    shatteredsquare Road Train Member

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    20k for one truck then? that's like 1st year OO entry $
     
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    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    This driver is loaded up with tanks of natural gas.
     
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  11. bonder45

    bonder45 Road Train Member

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    Not quite, my ins is roughly 10k for the two 2 new trucks and 6k for the other one. That’s for the liability and collision ( collision is the expensive part )

    Then the rest of the insurances are over the whole company, not per truck.
     
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