I'm old and not trying to be smart. Although I only drive a couple days a month now, I've been driving for decades and it doesn't matter to me where the axles are when backing into a dock. That said, if the customer wants the tandems back while docked, I do it when I open the doors.
Perhaps a little too much thinking going on.
Why is it better to have the tandems slid forward when alleydocking?
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by expedite_it, Sep 16, 2022.
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Don't have those issues any more, In the tanker world there's no sliding tandemsAnother Canadian driver, homeskillet, RockinChair and 2 others Thank this. -
Two extremes, but have you ever backed a 28' pup trailer . . . or a 53' stretch Tri-axle step (or an RGN for that matter) ??
The shorter trailer turns much quicker, so you don't need much room in front of you.
The longer trailer (tandems at the rear) will take more room in front of you, and react slower than the short pup trailer.
Tailswing? Is an issue with the trailer tandems forward, and if you keep 'following' and turn too tight, then you've got multiple issues and have to reposition, pull up, or you'll be snaking after the trailer trying to catch it, and be well off your intended mark.Another Canadian driver, rockeee, expedite_it and 3 others Thank this. -
Side note - over the years, I think the most fender benders I've seen at docks and truck stops - are due to tail swing, typically catching the truck to the right (passenger side) of the one backing in, or pulling out.
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Also, in the same instance, a trailer with the tandems forward bends a lot quicker and if you over correct the passenger side will kick out quicker putting you in a situation where you will hit the trailer next to you. With the tandems back it bends a lot slower so you have more time to correct that. You can see the trailer bending slower giving you more time to stop and correct.ProfessionalNoticer, Val_Caldera and tscottme Thank this. -
With trailer tandems forward you need less overall empty space in front of the "parked in the dock" position. But with tandems anywhere forward of the farthest-to-rear position you have tail swing of the trailer rear to worry about. If you have all the room any driver could ask for, it's easier and safer to slide tandems to the most rearward position. I learned how to back with my tandems set for weight distribution, not ease of backing. I learned to drive and back before air-release tandems were available. Because of that I learned to not slide my tandems unless it was required because any trailer that was older than 6 months would likely have some difficulty sliding the trailer tandems.
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How much room do you have to get the trailer into the dock? It makes a difference if you 2 acres out in the country or a sliver of the parking lot with a fire hydrant and 3 poles to not hit. Some truck schools willtrain you with 28' pups, some with 48' trailers, but not many with 53' trailers (which you actually will be using most). You mentioned having to get out and walk back twice, which you should do to double check the pins setting properly. Your method, you're just hoping they set. Me personally, "safety" is my middle name. Take that extra few seconds to eyeball it. Same with eyeballing your 5th wheel being locked in. Oh, tandems slid all the way back will be easier to back into dock.
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I have never backed a 28' pup trailer. I suppose that a 53' stretch Tri-axle step trailer has three axles. No, I never backed a 53' stretch Tri-axle step trailer either.
However, if you have the tandems all the way to the rear, wouldn't the trailer react just as quickly as if the tandems were all the way forward as long as you turned the steering wheel farther?
Just out of curiosity (I'm not arguing with you), why would a longer wheelbase (tandems at the rear) require more room in front of you? No matter where the tandems are, you still have to eventually swing the tractor in front of the trailer if you want the tractor to be aligned with the trailer in the parking spot when the back is completed.
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