UturnGirl tries again for better job

JoeTruck · Oct 10, 2022

$1.00 a mile reefer
$0.85 a mile dry
W -2
Chicago
Advance transportation systems

JoeTruck · Oct 10, 2022

CDLA - Top Pay for MOTIVATED Drivers (1700-2800 weekly) -...
Fort Worth
20% W-2
25% 1099

JoeTruck · Oct 10, 2022

https://www.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=216a4afe82b73ec2&advn=2279083321167825&adid=399785396&ad=-6NYlbfkN0AuAjYKnBHsdkcMxrD7ZJITXxV72vImVt5xOyKRJQecNC9OW9e4NL-wzLBOKFrmMTC-94SraqiCSyRcpy1NoVdSYLIZB_Z1CJM17NGC6zaSsTWiZdD3C-k-cAxXdUiofsXAbyMH4OxPwEyydWYGqaBzNZG2wBZdDE5WtbPoFf2DoPWdwLNGliP67DA_0YbZ6EhAb7_eRpWNBe37XdVd423SeFwp98zaO7y79KFVSwMrYpDXHVdqZJUVbt9pP53ALA4Iq_B7rXhhVTE4PVMcTgTdgUlSwVaS5G5SvCzyILGEB6r3a5Wpqqe-hcsNG4JjPG6DbCsX0eLQm-GSm60vQcTNlszlc5eMhlufOBD2Zog4xMDB-ofMLeUPAnIwShk2MsXvAGl011IqjP4r3PixrJd3pcXopuvUFnU=&from=serp&dest=https://employers.indeed.com/j/view-job?id=1230ad6b45fbc3e63c94&desth=eb43f5ba3b13d46b076a2e946c11ef87&prevUrl=https://www.indeed.com/m/jobs?q=cdl%20truck%20driver&l=Springfield%2C%20MO&ts=1665416337638&pts=1665341851064&from=searchOnSerp&rq=1&rsIdx=1&newcount=19&fromage=last&tk=1gf1rmmsm2gpl000&dupclk=1&acatk=1gf1rocuagfr7800&pub=6917c08ec3ecf6012dd26f3773156e870cace3277f6b99df&xkcb=SoDJ-_M3Yh_VO8wa1Z0IbzkdCdPP
$1500 to $2000 Houston

JoeyJunk · Oct 10, 2022

Suggesting Chicago outfits is not considered helping someone.

lual · Oct 10, 2022

JoeyJunk said: ↑

Suggesting Chicago outfits is not considered helping someone.
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So true!!!..........

--Lual

UturnGirl · Oct 10, 2022

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Apparently good recruiters are rare. Experienced this myself calling around feeling out the industry. Of the ten companies i spoke with, all claiming an immediate need, driver training available and/or hiring new drivers only three were professional. #1 - GPTransco and Millis and #2 - a local business owner with his own authority. I guess i should add Schneider as #3 as i did at least get an email a month later expressing interest. But with automated systems i highly doubt there was a human involved in that process.

I understand a recruiter is typically nothing more than a Customer Service Rep that companies hire to field a bunch of bat poop crazy calls but they are every bit as important as a good dispatcher as the face of the company and in procuring new talent. Make no mistake, as a professional driver you deserve to be professionally recruited! Much like healthcare providers having their credentials, patient outcomes & infection rates scrutinized so to does a commercial driver. I have been scrutinized more as a driver starting out more than any other job i have ever worked at except possibly law enforcement.

Speaking of the Upper Midwest specifically what companies advertise seemingly doesn't equate to what they actually pay. While i don't have the experience to negotiate squat starting out in trucking I'm well versed in Manufacturing and Healthcare. Unless it's a Union Contract, negotiations are always open even up to turning down a position for more favorable terms and getting a call back a week later accepting your terms.

Pay seems to be one of those things that most workers have a misconception of probably because people like to brag so much about how much they are (aren't) making? In my experience it's much easier to obtain something outside of wages set by budgets or healthcare, set by budget and plans well researched. Now that's not to say a hiring manager isn't trying to low ball you. Without venues like these forums it's near impossible to discover prevailing wages for your experience at the company you target. 10% was my rule of thumb if you knew what the company paid and they were desperate. .60 cents per mile+.6=.66. Pretty close to what Bzinger pointed out. It's crazy how the world is ran by percentages. it's like they teach that in business school.

If you have to advertise on your company trailers .70 or .80 cents a mile and home every night. Why are you still having difficulties filling positions? Probably the same reason naive O/O's think they are really going to bank $4 a mile?

UTurnGirl, if .60 cpm is your floor and nothing else will compensate for that dollar amount you need, stay the course! Thank them for their time, maybe even a follow up email (which the recruiters boss might see?) thanking them for their time & consideration, turning down the job offer based upon why and to feel free to contact you again in the future if their business needs change.

I think one of the biggest things hosing good employers is that while they might not pay the best, they tend to listen to or care for their employees and offer superior healthcare. Employees that have healthcare barely understand their plans let alone trying to discover the true costs of a prospective employers plan. Every bit as important as cpm and something i don't see getting mentioned often, that's my 2cents
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Well thought out. I scolded sloth boy gently for not giving me a presentation spiel and forcing me to drag every morsel of info out with tongs. Then I ascertained that there would be openings the minute the trucks arrives. Call me crazy. But it seems as if I would have pursued the candidate and had her complete the application process as far as possible in hopes of securing the candidate for my company when we did have an active need, but what do I know? I'm a knuckle dragging truck driver and I survive on mastodon meat.

UturnGirl · Oct 10, 2022

REO6205 said: ↑

Have you given any thought to going with one of those staffing companies that provide drivers to private carriers?
As many times as you've changed jobs you've more than proven that you have what it takes to onboard with a new company and fit in with their program. That could work in your favor.
A lot of drivers go with staffing companies and wind up working for one of the people they were temping for. It gives both sides a chance to evaluate the other.
You already know not to put much faith in recruiters.
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I actually was tempted by lane finders. They have a temporary gig right now hauling for fema that pays 3k + a week on a w2. I didn't want to go that route because as far as I can tell, I'm not in trouble with my current job so I'm looking to keep stress minimal.

UturnGirl · Oct 10, 2022

Tonight's update before I go under: turns out I think Empire Express is alright. Hit every note, and were straight shooters. Offered 60 cents + 5 cents for hazmat endorsement on all miles.. We calculated at 2500 miles that would still be a little over 1600 a week. My minimum is 1500 so they are right where I needed. But then I asked about the midnight to 4am issue I have. after much agonizing, the vp of fleet planning said there was no way to even minimize that. The company is a jit company and they have a couple of accts that require midnight pickup and mad dash to deliver in Florida the next day.

So I thanked them and we parted friends.

I'm fixin' to shake hands on a deal with riverside transport for 60 cents a mile home every 7 to 10 days for 48 and no driver facing cameras.

BeHereNow97 · Oct 10, 2022

UturnGirl said: ↑

Bwah bwah bwah bwah... recruiter at Fremont was sloth from zootopia. They have trucks on order, sposed to come in last week, maybe next week. I had to drag every word out of him. Maybe 50 52 cents a mile. Yawn. Well heck!
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That's pretty insulting they offered you MAYBE 50 to 52 CPM when you're an experienced driver. Wow.

Knightcrawler · Oct 10, 2022

UturnGirl said: ↑

Tonight's update before I go under: turns out I think Empire Express is alright. Hit every note, and were straight shooters. Offered 60 cents + 5 cents for hazmat endorsement on all miles.. We calculated at 2500 miles that would still be a little over 1600 a week. My minimum is 1500 so they are right where I needed. But then I asked about the midnight to 4am issue I have. after much agonizing, the vp of fleet planning said there was no way to even minimize that. The company is a jit company and they have a couple of accts that require midnight pickup and mad dash to deliver in Florida the next day.

So I thanked them and we parted friends.

I'm fixin' to shake hands on a deal with riverside transport for 60 cents a mile home every 7 to 10 days for 48 and no driver facing cameras.
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Yeah.. what they SAY and what they DO maybe NOT the same...

Find some of their drivers and ask THEM how often they get home, how many miles THEY get...

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