NTSB Investigating Fatal Accident Between Semi & Party Bus

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  1. Grouch

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    Most of you probably know this, but just in case, you don't. The HOS never changed for the bus industry. A bus driver can actually work 24 hours and never be in violation, I have done it many of times.

    I drove a private bus for 5 years and was completely exempt from the HOS or any DOT rules and regulations. I left Dallas, Tx , drove to Houston, visited a site there, drove to New Orleans, visited another site there, drove to Mobile, again visited a site and then drove to Charlotte NC. Never had a 8 or 10 hour break, had a couple "cat naps" while the boss tended to business.
     
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  3. Jubal Early Times

    Jubal Early Times Road Train Member

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    Sounds like a miserable job. I have never had the desire to drive a bus.
     
  4. Grouch

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    The 9 years I spent at Carolina Trailways were the happiest years of my life. I left there and took the job of driving the private bus for a large trucking company in Charlotte, NC, now that turned out to be one miserable job. I got terminated in Quebec Canada. The boss and me got into one hell of a "cuss fight" and the end result, I became unemployed. LOL LOL
     
  5. mjd4277

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    Except this wasn’t a case of a car crossing a median causing a collision- this involved a bus with passengers that improperly changed lanes and collided with a semi.
    In Virginia they tend to use a little common sense in crash investigations-even more so since the NTSB is involved in this one!
    Second,if that bus changed lanes suddenly the truck driver wouldn’t have a chance to back out of it. Even then the semi had control of the lane!
    If anything the bus driver may be possibly looking at vehicular homicide/manslaughter charges,plus anything else that may come up!
     
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  6. kylefitzy

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    What changes if the truck was speeding? I can’t imagine the bus was speeding at the time it merged on the highway presumably in front of the truck. Unfortunately blame in an accident isn’t 100% or 0%.
     
  7. ZVar

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    Haven't been in that area in awhile myself, so hopefully someone with more knowledge can chime in, but....
    Looking on google maps the entrances in that area of I-64 have a lot of lane to merge. Enough that a bus could easily get up to speed and even more before merging.
     
  8. mjd4277

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    Speeding or not, the fact remains the bus pulled into the semi’s path,presumably without checking to make sure it was safe to do so (which it wasn’t obviously).
     
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  9. ducnut

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    But, sympathetic juries don’t care about what’s right, laws, or facts. That’s been repeatedly proven. The plaintiffs’ attorneys only need to appeal to the jurors’ emotions to win their civil case. And, that’s the one that pays!

    What’s unfortunate is we’re entering a time where us not being able to reach speed limits could potentially be used against us. If we show an 8 minute pre-trip instead of a 15 minute pre-trip, that will be used against us. Driving 11:02 to make a rest area will be used against us. Every little thing we do has the potential to be used against us, should we have a bad day.
     
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    The accident didnt happen near a merge area, the area is 3 lanes each way and all I know is the truck ended up in the westbound lanes crashing through 2 guardrails and hanging off a bridge.
     
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  11. mjd4277

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    And the NTSB doesn’t care about sympathetic juries-they care about facts and laws-which is why they’re investigating it! This was serious enough to warrant their attention!
     
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